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From: XR650L_Dave on 16 Oct 2007 10:12
On Oct 16, 9:51 am, Craig <googlegroupm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 16, 8:34 am, XR650L_Dave <spamTHIS...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I think its a great rock bike.
> Lots of folks say the same about the XR600R. I spoke with Drew Smith
> of W.E.R. yesterday and he felt that what I'm experiencing was "very
> uncharacteristic" of even an old XR600R. He made a good point in
> suggesting that my swingarm and linkage bearings are probably shot.
> I'm sure they are, and plan to address them with the rest of the
> Drew also felt that going with the KX front end was introducing an
> unnecessary variable. For the short term, I agree. Maybe after I get
> it working "good" it'll be something I want to tinker with, but I
> really don't have the time it'll take to dial it in as Jeff points
> out. The cartridge emulators in the stock forks might be a simpler
> At this point, I think I'm going to go through the forks and shock and
> attend to any bearing issues to get to a decent starting place. From
> what I'm hearing from many experienced voices, that really should be
> good enough for what I want out of the bike. I don't need it to work
> great, I just need it to be rideable.
> My XR650Ls were both far better in the rocks (but not nearly as good
> as my KDX). There's clearly something wrong with this bike - more than
> just physics.
You know, I thought I started ping-ponging more than usual, finally
checked my swing-arm bushings....
Yep, shot. Didn't change 'em until I was here in NY, but it did make
it feel better, and less apt to tilt during wheelies.
I have a very easy-to-make bushing tool for XR600R/XR650L swingarms.
Well, they're actually caged needle bearings. It takes one on each
side, a trivial amount of lathe-work, I think, and you could fit 2 on
From: Dean H. on 16 Oct 2007 10:53
> Well, they're actually caged needle bearings. It takes one on each
> side, a trivial amount of lathe-work, I think, and you could fit 2 on
> each side.
Leave it to you to figure out a way to add more mass.
From: XR650L_Dave on 16 Oct 2007 12:04
On Oct 16, 10:53 am, "Dean H." <m...(a)groove.calm> wrote:
> "XR650L_Dave" <
> > Well, they're actually caged needle bearings. It takes one on each
> > side, a trivial amount of lathe-work, I think, and you could fit 2 on
> > each side.
> Leave it to you to figure out a way to add more mass.
I'm OK with adding mass, as long as I don't add weight.
From: Jeff Deeney on 16 Oct 2007 14:08
"oldfart" <alan.westcoast(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> One very heavy bike plus rocks = trouble. No matter what your
> suspension is or is dialed in at you must still deal with the laws of
> physics. If you hit a loose rock on its edge you will always have to
> contend with "pucker factor", an aviation term. Like Clint Eastwood
> said in several of his movies " A man's got to know his limitations".
Speaking of rocks, edges, and pucker...
This is what happens when the bottom of a 650L fork tube catches the edge of
a sharp, elongated rock, levers it out of the ground, and lifts the front
wheel & drops it sideways. Another inch to the left would have been Big
From: Tiago Rocha on 16 Oct 2007 14:17
On Oct 16, 3:08 pm, "Jeff Deeney" <jeff.nospam.dee...(a)hp.com> wrote:
> Speaking of rocks, edges, and pucker...
Trail riding is supposed to be FUN!!! Not life-threatening!