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From: Jeff Deeney on 16 Oct 2007 17:54
"XR650L_Dave" <spamTHISbrp(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Bailing is a vital but under-rated skill.
and one that my son is having a hard time learning. He has a bad habit of
falling down and getting pinned under the bike. Bail, tuck, and roll are
Toss the bike away in an instant, if it will help out your body. Even
disassemling a bike to remove it from a bad location is better than months
of PT (or worse) to repair your body.
From: XR650L_Dave on 16 Oct 2007 18:30
On Oct 16, 5:54 pm, "Jeff Deeney" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> "XR650L_Dave" <spamTHIS...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > Bailing is a vital but under-rated skill.
> and one that my son is having a hard time learning. He has a bad habit of
> falling down and getting pinned under the bike. Bail, tuck, and roll are
> coming slowly.
> Toss the bike away in an instant, if it will help out your body. Even
> disassemling a bike to remove it from a bad location is better than months
> of PT (or worse) to repair your body.
Especially those with big dual-sports. Way to easy to get stuck under
the bike, or maybe even get pinned somewhat upright against something
and then die from compressive asphyxiation. I use a carefully
developed technique I call 'flailing' where I don't even try to keep
my feet on the pegs, so I can get off all the faster if need be. Looks
accidental, but its a carefully contrived survival maneuver.
I slipped on some ice outside work while talking to someone. I started
to slip, didn't even stick out a hand, I just collapsed and rolled,
and got back up. They thought for sure I'd been hurt. Obviously, they
don't ride a dirt bike.
From: Craig on 17 Oct 2007 09:19
On Oct 16, 3:52 pm, "Jeff Deeney" <jeff.nospam.dee...(a)hp.com> wrote:
> On average, I will drop my 2-stroke 1-3 times per year. The 650 isn't
> something I want to drop. Rather than spend my energy & time (not to
> mention my lower back) recovering the Pig, I simply slow down 1-2 notches.
> I can ride much longer & further that way. Invariably, I always end up
> waiting for the guys that are dropping & breaking their bikes. It's the
> tortoise & hare thing.
I'm in about the same boat. I've had two 650Ls and put quite a few off-
road miles on them over the years. I can only recall dropping the 650L
once. Of course, it was in a cold stream in late October. I've had the
600R for a couple of years now and I don't think I've dropped it yet.
I am now knocking feverishly on wood.
Wait, I just remembered another 650L drop. Large cold mud puddle in
the fall. With that one, there was a place where a natural spring had
been piped to a pull-off on the road nearby so I used that to wash off
the mud. I can still feel how cold that water was.
I rode a bunch with the same group of guys in 2005. Toward the end of
the year I dropped the KDX (front end washed out, I stayed on my feet)
and they were all very excited to have seen me crash. I didn't realize
that they'd been keeping track and that was the first crash of the
year for me.
I don't usually crash much, and when I do it's more likely to be a
slow-speed fatigue induced thing than a big major crash. Not
surprisingly, I'm not the fastest guy when the going gets fast. Since
I'm just out playriding, the risk/reward thing always causes me to
slow down a bit.
I bought a new 1987 XR600 way back when I was just learning to ride. I
rode a couple of enduros as a total newbie and tried to keep up with
my buddy who was a faster rider on a more nimble bike when we went
playriding. I crashed enough that summer to last me a lifetime.
From: Craig on 17 Oct 2007 09:23
On Oct 16, 5:47 pm, XR650L_Dave <spamTHIS...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bailing is a vital but under-rated skill.
Indeed it is. I think a lot of it has to do with fighting for survival
'til the last possible moment. Lots of people will freeze up at the
beginning of a crash and just go along for the ride. I keep looking
for a way to make things better until I've come to a stop...
I have a friend who sticks his arm out straight to "catch himself"
whenever he falls. He's broken his collarbone two or three times now
because of that habit.
From: sturd on 17 Oct 2007 09:40
> Construction spots always seem to have a little thing you want to hit,
> don't they?
This one is now packed dirt and has a mile-flat-track-looking 150
degree corner I can hit topped out in 5th I think. Gotta try it
it gets paved. There's also a riprap hillside I want to try to get
up before the bridge deck gets put in, then you won't be able
to without doing a Caspar act through the deck.
Go fast. Take chances.