2010 SuperTrapp SE Slip-On Mufflers
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From: Bob Mann on 11 Nov 2009 13:05 c <smalltalkingchicken(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:551c2779-1f1a-450c-a1c8- 3f43d9b8e8d0(a)j24g2000vbl.googlegroups.com: > the procedure nets cooler temps for the engine and a more comfortable > right foot/ankle for the rider (unless you normally have very heavy > boots while riding) > Actually, it's going to have less back pressure, run leaner and therefore hotter for the engine. -- Bob Mann Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
From: Bob Mann on 11 Nov 2009 13:16 "Steve Paul" <smarshallpaul(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:jqmdnUWXZL78cmfXnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com: > Ride with other TC owners, listen to their machines, and ask them > specifically what they did to get the sound that _you_ like. In the > meantime, as you were already advised here a while ago, ride it stock > until you _know_ what you're doing. > Too late for that, he already has the 103" stage 2 and apparently got the Screaming Eagle mufflers. He should have checked the sound of those mufflers because they are fairly tame sounding. Not bad and I'd be relative happy with them but tame none the less. They are also a little high pitched considering what they look like. We stuck a pair on a floor model Ultra Limited to see what they were like. To c..... Hacking up those mufflers isn't the way to go. The catalytic converter OTOH seems okay for surgery to me but the download isn't going to cut it any more. This is stuff that should have been thought out more thouroughly beforehand since it's going to take more $$$ now on top of the $$ already spent. My recommendation for deeper sounding mufflers that aren't (much) louder than the SEs are either Bub7s or Kuryakyn Crushers. For deep notes you need a round exhaust. Most are considerably louder such as the venerable Rineharts or the Klock Werks and Vance and Hince Starightshots. Go to the dealer and see what they have around as far as bikes with different mufflers. I'm sure they'd be willing to fire one up so you could spend more money. Now you *will* need the SE Super Tuner as well since the only thing making the bike run with the download was the catalytic converter and the H-D mufflers *in stock shape*. -- Bob Mann Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
From: Bob Mann on 11 Nov 2009 14:55 Steve Irving <sdirv(a)NOSPAMq.com> wrote in news:4afafdc1$1(a)127.0.0.1: > Bob Mann wrote: >> c <smalltalkingchicken(a)gmail.com> wrote in >> news:551c2779-1f1a-450c-a1c8- >> 3f43d9b8e8d0(a)j24g2000vbl.googlegroups.com: >> >>> the procedure nets cooler temps for the engine and a more >>> comfortable right foot/ankle for the rider (unless you normally have >>> very heavy boots while riding) >>> >> >> Actually, it's going to have less back pressure, run leaner and >> therefore hotter for the engine. >> > > Yo Bob...... > > How did his "modification" effect his warranty???? > > <snerk> > If it causes problems, it could be unpleasant. -- Bob Mann Cap'n, ah need moor pow'r.
From: TL Mitchell on 11 Nov 2009 16:03 "Bob Mann" <bobmann(a)mtsremove.net> wrote > Actually, it's going to have less back pressure, run leaner and therefore > hotter for the engine. How much do the dealers get skooled on the Adaptive Learning features of the '07+ ECMs? 112
From: c on 11 Nov 2009 16:53
On Nov 11, 1:16 pm, Bob Mann <bobm...(a)mtsremove.net> wrote: > "Steve Paul" <smarshallp...(a)gmail.com> wrote innews:jqmdnUWXZL78cmfXnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com: > > > Ride with other TC owners, listen to their machines, and ask them > > specifically what they did to get the sound that _you_ like. In the > > meantime, as you were already advised here a while ago, ride it stock > > until you _know_ what you're doing. > > Too late for that, he already has the 103" stage 2 and apparently got the > Screaming Eagle mufflers. > He should have checked the sound of those mufflers because they are > fairly tame sounding. Not bad and I'd be relative happy with them but > tame none the less. They are also a little high pitched considering what > they look like. We stuck a pair on a floor model Ultra Limited to see > what they were like. > the dealer said supertrapp's sounded good ... the internet said they sounded good ... i've seen people with supertrapps and they were good ... something about the 2010's or about these particular supertrapp's ("SE" - a nod to when they were screamin eagle II, but now the "SE" is "super elite" or some BS) just isn't working i trusted the dealer (point and laugh, boys and girls!), but in my own defense it doesn't make sense that they'd sell me a $400 set of pipes that were shitty when there are 2 other kinds of $400 pipes that aren't shitty ... that'd be a whole other level of ignorance/ malice ... if anything i doubt they understood the differences in 2010 slipons, and i think it's innocent whether they'll help me out now or tell me to bend over, heh, i'm not going to bother hoping for the former > To c..... > > Hacking up those mufflers isn't the way to go. > The catalytic converter OTOH seems okay for surgery to me but the > download isn't going to cut it any more. > > This is stuff that should have been thought out more thouroughly > beforehand since it's going to take more $$$ now on top of the $$ already > spent. > i'm never going to say i knew everything, but i knew a lot and the amount of info available 2 months ago on 2010 slip-ons was zilch ... at best, we could make inferences from the 09 years if the 2010's from other brands perform as poorly on other 2010 bikes, i may provide ketchup to those gentlemen willing to eat their hats > For deep notes you need a round exhaust. Most are considerably louder > such as the venerable Rineharts or the Klock Werks and Vance and Hince > Starightshots. sounds like science ... round hole = fat sound ... thank you, i will be sure that my final exhaust solution employs a round outlet rather than oval or slit or whatever other shapes there are & i still plan on picking up a SEST/PCV/mastertune, though i thank you again for the reminder (as a practical matter, there's no difference in the feel post-cat- drilling, there's just a lot less heat on my right foot when i wear sneakers or shoes riding) -c |