From: Futility Man on
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 09:55:04 -0500, ernest.p.worrell(a)vernal.equinox.edu (T.J.
Higgins) wrote:

> There are several such guys who set up shop on the Tail of the Dragon: killboy.com,
>zeefoto.com, us129photos.com, etc.

There sure are. Killboy wasn't out last Thursday but zeefoto and us129photos
were busy.

http://www.photoreflect.com/store/Orderpage.aspx?pi=0HH601FQ040094&po=94&pc=118
95 through 118

and

http://www.photoreflect.com/store/Orderpage.aspx?pi=0QAK00QY080698&po=698&pc=734
699 through 734.

Interesting that two different photographers were selling pictures, but they're
both selling them through Photoreflect.

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Futility Man
From: Mark Olson on
Twibil wrote:
> On Aug 9, 7:55 am, ernest.p.worr...(a)vernal.equinox.edu (T.J. Higgins)
> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe to try to sell the pictures to the riders. There are several
>> such guys who set up shop on the Tail of the Dragon: killboy.com,
>> zeefoto.com, us129photos.com, etc.
>
> I thunk of that, but couldn't figure out how he'd get in touch with
> the riders to sell the pics.
>
> Just hoping that they'll somehow hear about you and access your
> website doesn't sound like a very professional/successful business
> model.

Usually they have big signs showing their web address, enough people
like the pics and buy the high res versions to keep them in business.
It's not necessary for the photog to find out who rode past the photo
van.

If it really was an unmarked van he's not going to sell many photos,
that is true.
From: Twibil on
On Aug 9, 12:55 pm, Mark Olson <ols...(a)tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> >> Maybe to try to sell the pictures to the riders.  There are several
> >> such guys who set up shop on the Tail of the Dragon:  killboy.com,
> >> zeefoto.com, us129photos.com, etc.
>
> > I thunk of that, but couldn't figure out how he'd get in touch with
> > the riders to sell the pics.
>
> > Just hoping that they'll somehow hear about you and access your
> > website doesn't sound like a very professional/successful business
> > model.
>
> Usually they have big signs showing their web address, enough people
> like the pics and buy the high res versions to keep them in business.
> It's not necessary for the photog to find out who rode past the photo
> van.
>
> If it really was an unmarked van he's not going to sell many photos,
> that is true.

Dunno if it was unmarked or not.

It was parked behind the same bush that he was.
From: Futility Man on
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:20:03 +0100, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

>If I was taking those pix, I'd have scrambled up the rocks, and tried
>shooting downwards, from a height, to get a more arresting image.

Being intimately familiar with the terrain there, I'd bet you 50 Euros that you
wouldn't. ;-)

You'd end up scrambling up a loose dirt embankment and sliding back down into
the roadway just in time to get plastered by a squid.

The weather is brutally hot there this time of the year. They have a shade
shelter set up in a level spot just off the road and when they hear a bike
coming, they scramble out to a good vantage point and hope to get a pic. There
simply isn't time to crawl up the dirt bank and it would be insanity to sit up
there all day - and probably illegal, since that side of the road is a national
park and there are stiff penalties for disturbing the dirt or plants there.

They're doing the best they can with what they have. They're sometimes obliged
to shoot dozens of pics per minute, trying to get riders coming from both
directions. The shutter and depth of field settings they use are what they need
to get the maximum number of good shots.

In that corner, the bikes aren't going all that fast, maybe 40 to 45 mph. It's
not hard to freeze spokes at those speeds.

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Futility Man
From: ? on
On Aug 9, 11:05 am, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 9, 4:44 am, "?" <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Been there, done that.
>
> Yeah, suuuuuure you have.  That's why your raging jealousy invariably
> forces you to snipe at ride reports from actual riders.

Wrong. You really, really, really do bore me to death.

SR79 from Temecula to Warner Springs sucks, IMNSHO. It's just too arid
and there's not much to see.

That Butterfield Stage Route barn did not catch my attention at all,
but I didn't live along the Butterfield route the last time I went
through there.

If I was headed toward the Scissors crossing, I'd prefer to ride
through Pala on SR76 past Lake Henshaw, then get onto the 79 and go
through Santa Ysabel (very pretty ranch area with horses and cattle in
green pastures) and Julian.

Then I would take either SR79 down through Cuyamaca Rancho Stae Park,
go past Lake Morena and wind up in Campo or take SR78 through Banner
into Anza Borrego Desert State Park..

The latter route descends into the low desert with more spectacular
geology.

But the best season for Anza Borrego is April or May, when the flowers
and the octotillo cacti are in bloom.

I must admit though that the road through Ranchita into Borrego
Springs is specatular as it descends into the low desert through the
rocks...