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From: R. LaCasse on 11 Jan 2010 03:03 On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:23:48 -0500, tomcas <tomcas(a)email.com> wrote: |>Animeniac wrote: |>> Does anyone know if there are sealed batteries that will replace regular |>> fillable ones?` |>> Are there cross references? |>> |>> YB10L-A2 for instance. |>> |>> Or am I going to run into charging systems on older bikes that are |>> incompatible with sealed batteries? |>> |>> |>> |>> Anime arimasu ka? (Got Anime?) |>> |>> |>The gell batteries for motorcycles and scooters are interchangeable with |>lead-acid batteries. As long as it's the right voltage, capacity |>(amp-hours), size, and terminals, you can use it to replace a like |>lead-acid type. Although AGM needs a higher Voltage to properly charge, voltage that your Scooter/M-cycle's alternator does not generate enough of in city, some hi-way environments, unless your in a dirt biking or other racing environment. AGM's usually need a monthly topping charge which neat items like the Battery Tender Jr/Plus (13.3float) do NOT have, but the Optima and most small car chargers have when in AGM/Gel mode (13.7float). The older chargers will charge, but not to the AGMs FULL capacity, but some older chargers have an absorption charge of 15volt/7.5volt as in Foto SLA/AGM batteries... Bob
From: Bob on 13 Jan 2010 07:24
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:05:42 GMT, paul c <toledobythesea(a)oohay.ac> wrote: |>Animeniac wrote: |>> Does anyone know if there are sealed batteries that will replace regular |>> fillable ones?` |>> Are there cross references? |>> |>> YB10L-A2 for instance. |>> |>> Or am I going to run into charging systems on older bikes that are |>> incompatible with sealed batteries? |>> |>> |>> |>> Anime arimasu ka? (Got Anime?) |>> |>> |> |>This may be a little late for the OP, but spring is coming, so maybe |>somebody will be interested in this link: |> |>http://www.yuasabatteries.com/pdfs/2009_yuasa_apps_specs.pdf |> |>There is a cross-reference for a number of non-Yuasa brands starting |>around page 14. |> |>Regarding charging, I believe the only important incompatibility would |>be with gel batteries, which are aimed at 'deep-cycle' applications and |>so are extremely rare in the small sizes that bikes and scoots use |>(maybe non-existent for all I know). The most common sealed batteries |>aka MF/'maintenance-free' types of batteries apparently require |>fractionally higher voltages than the refillable kind, but the |>difference is something like a tenth or fifth of a volt, so I wouldn't |>worry, I would think the difference isn't noticeable, after all, the |>charging voltage varies quite a lot depending on engine speed. My 4 stage Shumacher SC1200A absorb charges at less voltage in AGM/Gel, but the float/charge is about 2 volts higher.... Most M/Cycle Scoot batteries are some form of AGM, but Gels are more like Golf carts, RVs, and are being replaced by AGMs, which vary a whole hell of a lot in quality, making a charging decision a bit more difficult..... AGMs never seem to heat up, AFAIK, but some expert may know better. Bob |