Any "hero" stories of broken-bone riders returning early to race?
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From: Henry on 19 Jul 2010 01:34 On Jul 18, 4:27 am, Mark N <menusbaumNYETS...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > Julian Bond wrote: > > I hope they did the old UK club racing trick. If you can jump off this > > chair onto your broken leg, you can race. > > Ha! My guess is the doctor's visit went something like this: > > Dr. Fischer: Let's take a look at that leg, shall we... Ah, this looks > just fine, almost as if there was no break at all! > > The Doctor: You're looking at my left leg. I broke the right one. > > Dr. Fischer: Mr. Espeleta told me to look at the left one, and that's > all I'm allowed to do. Yes, this leg looks just fine, let me sign that > form and we're done with it... > > Seriously, there was no chance at all that Rossi wouldn't have gotten > the green light this weekend. On the topic of doctor's clearance and > this track, here's a bit from 2006: > > Casey Stoner, on the other hand, was fighting fit, or so he insisted. > And extremely awkward doctor, said otherwise, and he was out of the > race. It all happened on Sunday morning warmup, when the Australian had > a second tumble of the weekend. It was on the fast right onto the back > straight, caught out by a cold front tire, and a heavy enough fall. He > walked away, and insisted he had not lost consciousness at any point. > The track doctor, Jorg-Uwe Fischer, thought otherwise, and required he > be taken to hospital for a CAT scan. Clear or not, and Stoner said it > had been, and in spite of entreaties from Clinica staff, he wasn't > allowed to race. > > Some thought this high-handed medical intervention timely, though Stoner > was rather unfortunate to be the pawn in the game (he has benefited in > the past, once allowed out to practice on a 250 while still so concussed > that he had trouble seeing the brakemarkers). The power and staus of Dr. > Costa's Clinica Mobile had grown hugely over the past decade of > quick-fix trauma control, but when it comes to declaring riders fit to > race, there's a clash of interests. This very race had to be stopped > last year when John Hopkins, pumped full of painkillers after a practice > fall, lost control midpack in the early laps, his foot too numb to feel > the gear pedal. It is more correct that an independent doctor should > have the say-so, and Stoner's team boss Luccio Cecchinello argued > convincingly for the FIM to appoint someone permanent to the role, as in > F1 racing. Had Dr. Fischer exceeded his brief? He had certainly been > prepared to err well on the side of caution. Others welcomed a flexing > of muscle by a faction too long prepared to play a secondary role. I'm assuming a failure of a concussion test is therefore more likely to have one stood-down than having a leg with metal bits holding the bones together. Things as they should be :)
From: Baldy on 20 Jul 2010 16:10 Affairs are better than they used to be, the worst recent example was Wayne Rainey, crashing at Donington and fracturing a vertebrae in his back. Sliping under the radar with that one he raced at the Czech Republic and then at Misano where he crashed and broke his now weakened back. Obviously knowing about the fracture but racing anyway is what I find extraordinary, back then I guess if a rider could verbally convince a Doctor he could race half the argument was won but even now some of the tales about bandage jobs make me feel queasy. Of course the next post will F and blind about it being 'up to the racer' etc but that looks like the same red mist that puts plenty of riders into hospital anyway, and thats my point. Half these people never get to figure out that if its such an obsession to race above all else then it might be that they start placing their very existence second to being the competitor. Devil... Soul?
From: Julian Bond on 20 Jul 2010 16:46 Baldy <voeut(a)hotmail.co.uk> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:10:51 >Affairs are better than they used to be, the worst recent example was >Wayne Rainey, crashing at Donington and fracturing a vertebrae in his >back. Sliping under the radar with that one he raced at the Czech >Republic and then at Misano where he crashed and broke his now >weakened back. Obviously knowing about the fracture but racing anyway >is what I find extraordinary, back then I guess if a rider could >verbally convince a Doctor he could race half the argument was won but >even now some of the tales about bandage jobs make me feel queasy. >Of course the next post will F and blind about it being 'up to the >racer' etc but that looks like the same red mist that puts plenty of >riders into hospital anyway, and thats my point. Half these people >never get to figure out that if its such an obsession to race above >all else then it might be that they start placing their very existence >second to being the competitor. Devil... Soul? Robert Dunlop (RIP) comes to mind here. -- Julian Bond E&MSN: julian_bond at voidstar.com M: +44 (0)77 5907 2173 Webmaster: http://www.ecademy.com/ T: +44 (0)192 0412 433 Personal WebLog: http://www.voidstar.com/ skype:julian.bond?chat Keep Away From Children
From: Henry on 20 Jul 2010 17:13 On Jul 21, 8:46 am, Julian Bond <julian_b...(a)voidstar.com> wrote: > Baldy <vo...(a)hotmail.co.uk> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:10:51 > > >Affairs are better than they used to be, the worst recent example was > >Wayne Rainey, crashing at Donington and fracturing a vertebrae in his > >back. Sliping under the radar with that one he raced at the Czech > >Republic and then at Misano where he crashed and broke his now > >weakened back. Obviously knowing about the fracture but racing anyway > >is what I find extraordinary, back then I guess if a rider could > >verbally convince a Doctor he could race half the argument was won but > >even now some of the tales about bandage jobs make me feel queasy. > >Of course the next post will F and blind about it being 'up to the > >racer' etc but that looks like the same red mist that puts plenty of > >riders into hospital anyway, and thats my point. Half these people > >never get to figure out that if its such an obsession to race above > >all else then it might be that they start placing their very existence > >second to being the competitor. Devil... Soul? > > Robert Dunlop (RIP) comes to mind here. add to that anyone who dies at IOM. freedom of choice v liklihood of death or injury
From: Henry on 20 Jul 2010 17:14
On Jul 21, 8:46 am, Julian Bond <julian_b...(a)voidstar.com> wrote: > Baldy <vo...(a)hotmail.co.uk> Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:10:51 > > >Affairs are better than they used to be, the worst recent example was > >Wayne Rainey, crashing at Donington and fracturing a vertebrae in his > >back. Sliping under the radar with that one he raced at the Czech > >Republic and then at Misano where he crashed and broke his now > >weakened back. Obviously knowing about the fracture but racing anyway > >is what I find extraordinary, back then I guess if a rider could > >verbally convince a Doctor he could race half the argument was won but > >even now some of the tales about bandage jobs make me feel queasy. > >Of course the next post will F and blind about it being 'up to the > >racer' etc but that looks like the same red mist that puts plenty of > >riders into hospital anyway, and thats my point. Half these people > >never get to figure out that if its such an obsession to race above > >all else then it might be that they start placing their very existence > >second to being the competitor. Devil... Soul? > > Robert Dunlop (RIP) comes to mind here. add to that anyone who dies at IOM. freedom of choice v liklihood of death or injury |