From: ChrisDC on
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:54:58 +0100, BORG <Borg(a)deadspam.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:02:31 +0100, ChrisDC <news(a)127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>BTW, if you are thinking of balancing the carbs, you do need to blank
>>off the linking passageways in the inlet manifold. They can't be
>>synchronised properly without this. There is a Yamaha tool that cost
>>about 20 when I bought one, but that was in 1992.
>
>
>yer I am aware of this, although there are several trains of thought
>on it
>
>Some ppl swear that they can be balanced better without the tool being
>used.

That's bollocks. I've tried to do it with and without the tool,
monitoring progress with a 4-channel manometer, and you cannot
synchronise it accurately unless the inlet tract link is blocked.
There is just too much interaction between the linked carbs. You can
have one a long way out yet it has little effect on tickover.

>Another tip I have seen is don't bother with the special tool and use
>a 10mm soft wood dowel.

If you like splinters of wood heading into your engine, go ahead.

The special tool is a few alternating sections of rubber pipe and
alloy tube threaded onto a metal rod, with a lever that compresses the
pipes lengthways to block the tract linkages.

I suggest you treat the "advice" you've recieved with a healthy dose
of scepticism. Mine too, for that matter, but I had an XJ900F for 7
years and did all my own servicing after the first 2. The person who
bought it off me was, and still is, very happy with the work I'd done
and the way I'd looked after it.

My feelings about what she has done to the frame are somewhat mixed.

--
Chris
VN1500-j1 (Gertrude) Twice the fun at half the speed.
chris.desclayes at ffcc dot powernet dot co dot uk
But minus one "f"
From: BORG on
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:43:29 +0100, ChrisDC <news(a)127.0.0.1> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:54:58 +0100, BORG <Borg(a)deadspam.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:02:31 +0100, ChrisDC <news(a)127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>>BTW, if you are thinking of balancing the carbs, you do need to blank
>>>off the linking passageways in the inlet manifold. They can't be
>>>synchronised properly without this. There is a Yamaha tool that cost
>>>about 20 when I bought one, but that was in 1992.
>>
>>
>>yer I am aware of this, although there are several trains of thought
>>on it
>>
>>Some ppl swear that they can be balanced better without the tool being
>>used.
>
>That's bollocks. I've tried to do it with and without the tool,
>monitoring progress with a 4-channel manometer, and you cannot
>synchronise it accurately unless the inlet tract link is blocked.
>There is just too much interaction between the linked carbs. You can
>have one a long way out yet it has little effect on tickover.
>
>>Another tip I have seen is don't bother with the special tool and use
>>a 10mm soft wood dowel.
>
>If you like splinters of wood heading into your engine, go ahead.
>
>The special tool is a few alternating sections of rubber pipe and
>alloy tube threaded onto a metal rod, with a lever that compresses the
>pipes lengthways to block the tract linkages.
>
>I suggest you treat the "advice" you've recieved with a healthy dose
>of scepticism. Mine too, for that matter, but I had an XJ900F for 7
>years and did all my own servicing after the first 2. The person who
>bought it off me was, and still is, very happy with the work I'd done
>and the way I'd looked after it.
>
>My feelings about what she has done to the frame are somewhat mixed.


Advice taken and tool now being sort, if I can find one now
--

www.ratrodz.co.uk

XJ900 Trike GS850 Trike

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Some people are like slinkys....
no real use but it makes you smile when they fall down stairs!
From: BORG on
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:13:33 +0100, Lozzo <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote:

>I've probably successfully rebuilt more engines and bikes than you've
>ever owned.


very probably, then again so have I.
--

www.ratrodz.co.uk

XJ900 Trike GS850 Trike

obet(a)jryfutbi.pb.hx [Rot 13 it]

Some people are like slinkys....
no real use but it makes you smile when they fall down stairs!
From: BORG on
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:43:29 +0100, ChrisDC <news(a)127.0.0.1> wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:54:58 +0100, BORG <Borg(a)deadspam.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:02:31 +0100, ChrisDC <news(a)127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>>BTW, if you are thinking of balancing the carbs, you do need to blank
>>>off the linking passageways in the inlet manifold. They can't be
>>>synchronised properly without this. There is a Yamaha tool that cost
>>>about 20 when I bought one, but that was in 1992.
>>
>>
>>yer I am aware of this, although there are several trains of thought
>>on it
>>
>>Some ppl swear that they can be balanced better without the tool being
>>used.
>
>That's bollocks. I've tried to do it with and without the tool,
>monitoring progress with a 4-channel manometer, and you cannot
>synchronise it accurately unless the inlet tract link is blocked.
>There is just too much interaction between the linked carbs. You can
>have one a long way out yet it has little effect on tickover.
>
>>Another tip I have seen is don't bother with the special tool and use
>>a 10mm soft wood dowel.
>
>If you like splinters of wood heading into your engine, go ahead.
>
>The special tool is a few alternating sections of rubber pipe and
>alloy tube threaded onto a metal rod, with a lever that compresses the
>pipes lengthways to block the tract linkages.
>
>I suggest you treat the "advice" you've recieved with a healthy dose
>of scepticism. Mine too, for that matter, but I had an XJ900F for 7
>years and did all my own servicing after the first 2. The person who
>bought it off me was, and still is, very happy with the work I'd done
>and the way I'd looked after it.
>
>My feelings about what she has done to the frame are somewhat mixed.


Well after phoning Yamaha UK and finding out the price of the 'tool'
is 50 I think I'll make my own.
--

www.ratrodz.co.uk

XJ900 Trike GS850 Trike

obet(a)jryfutbi.pb.hx [Rot 13 it]

Some people are like slinkys....
no real use but it makes you smile when they fall down stairs!
From: ChrisDC on
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:00:20 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimly4REMOVE(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember BORG <Borg(a)deadspam.com> saying
>something like:
>
>>Well after phoning Yamaha UK and finding out the price of the 'tool'
>>is 50 I think I'll make my own.
>
>That wooden dowel idea sounds the simplest.

Unless it's a perfect sliding fit and guaranteed splinter-free I
wouldn't go for that one.

--
Chris
VN1500-j1 (Gertrude) Twice the fun at half the speed.
chris.desclayes at ffcc dot powernet dot co dot uk
But minus one "f"
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