From: Bill Walker on

"Ari Rankum" <ari_rankum(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:pZGci.75$tI5.62(a)trnddc08...
> Bill Walker wrote:
>
> Put that all on your epitaph, billie. What's important is just that you
> believe it. Don't pay any mind to any steaming ploppers on your grave.
> Those are just mementos from those who didn't "get it". You rock!

LOL.. You couldn't deliver when you had the chance, dimwit.. Not a chance
in hell that you can deliver, after the fact.. huh ?


From: Bill Walker on

"Ari Rankum" <ari_rankum(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:xRGci.74$tI5.34(a)trnddc08...
> Bill Walker wrote:
>
> Happy Father's Day, billie. Nice job, there.

<grin> Thanks.. I feel almost as good about it as the day I heard
the crash and saw both wheels of your motorcycle in the air.. and
heard you screaming like a girl.. "I saw it.. I saw the whole thing, he
hit Mark"..
>


From: Ed Hart on
Nah.An't getting involved.These are people that are of very good
standings.We lick our wounds,learn our lessons and get on with life.Thanks
for your concern.Have a great day.Over and out.

--
Ed Hart
The supreme irony of life is that hardly
anyone gets out of it alive.

"Mike" <mgldwng(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:1181959852.593603.122560(a)k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 15, 6:52 pm, "Ed Hart" <ed-h...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > I have been quiet in this.Now I will say my dollars worth.
> > Long before Brian Walker praised the shop at Renegades and suggested
anyone
> > here please use them because they were a good bunch of guys and he was
> > wanting to help their business,I had 3 friends that used them and they
> > SCREWED ALL of them equally.After Brian praised them,I went by there and
> > looked at the inside of the storefront.Regardless of anyones opinion of
me
> > or my judgement,I saw serious problems.I kept my mouth shut
anyway.Well,I
> > just opened it.
> > Brian:
> > Identical to screwing a gal that gave several of your friends the
CRUD.You
> > may get away from it several times,but if you keep going back,sooner or
> > later,you will get it also.
> > Not judging anyone here.Just my opinion.
> > Brian,go get you a shot of pennicillin and be damn glad it was
something
> > you could get ride of.
> > Life Goes On---------------------
> >
> > --
> > Ed Hart
> > The supreme irony of life is that hardly
> > anyone gets out of it alive.
> >
> > "Bill Walker" <bill.walk...(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:5NEci.51$%t6.12(a)trnddc02...
> >
> >
> >
> > > <mgld...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> > >news:1181941126.243615.252350(a)p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > > >I spent about 30 minutes writing a response to BRIAN WALKERS posts
and
> > > > decided not to post them here. I want to go on record as saying we
did
> > > > nothing wrong with his bike, he abused and cursed everyone within
> > > > earshot, called another customer an SOB and basically spent about 30
> > > > minutes issuing terrorist threats. If you would like to hear the
whole
> > > > story, call me at (972) 681-3588 and I will take the time to tell
you
> > > > our side. Brian is a liar at the least and a threat to society at
> > > > best. Had Brian entered our store with a decent attitude, things
would
> > > > have worked out much differently for him. I feel sorry for him as an
> > > > individual. It's apparent he has many issues with life in general.
By
> > > > the way, if you have access to publicdata.com, look Brian up.
> > > > As a good will gesture, I have given Brians phone number to 3
> > > > individuals who have called in the last 2 days interested in the
bike.
> > > > Brian, have a great day !
> >
> > > I am Brians' Dad and hardly unbiased.. Then again, I've been in your
> > > shop and place of business.. If you recall, I've made several attempts
> > > to do business with Renegade motorcycles in the past few years..
> > > That was on the recommendation of none other but Brian Walker..
> >
> > > Noticeably, you did not sign your post on this newsgroup, so I have no
> > > idea who I'm addressing, at this point..
> >
> > > For one reason or another, I've never allowed your shop to work on my
> > > motorcycle.. Mostly, that has been due to the questionable abilities
of
> > > your own technicians working there..
> >
> > > Several of the participants on this newsgroup rode with Brian when he
> > > was mounted on that same motorcycle which was consigned to your
> > > business, for sale.. For what it is worth, we all know that motorcycle
> > > and can vouch for it's condition.. And, I think for your own
information,
> > > and common knowledge amongst our friends on this newsgroup.. your
> > > business is fortunate that it wasn't my motorcycle which you obviously
> > > abused, while it was entrusted to you..
> >
> > > Most importantly.. the general condition of the motorcycles which
gen-
> > > erally sit in front of your store would be considered mostly salvage
by
> > > many of the riders who Brian and me ride with..
> >
> > > The tenor and tone of your post that you've seen fit to put on this
news-
> > > group is an indictment of yourself.. Obviously, you and your employees
> > > are liable for the condition which that motorcycle was recovered by
> > Brian..
> >
> > > There is no question of it's condition when it was placed in your
> > > possession.
> > > There is also no question of it's condition when Brian recovered it..
> >
> > > Calling Brian a liar and informing the public about his tirade and
> > > supposedly
> > > bad attitude in your shop, doesn't alleviate your lack of
responsibility
> > in
> > > the neglect and abuse of that motorcycle while you had possession of
it..
> >
> > > Bill Walker
> > > Irving, Tx.
>
> Ed,
> You say we have screwed 3 people that you know. That's easy to say.
> Why don't you name names. I could just as easily say you robbed 15
> banks, and not name names. Give facts, not he said she said. Thanks.
>


From: Mike on
On Jun 15, 9:18 pm, "Ed Hart" <ed-h...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Nah.An't getting involved.These are people that are of very good
> standings.We lick our wounds,learn our lessons and get on with life.Thanks
> for your concern.Have a great day.Over and out.
>
> --
> Ed Hart
> The supreme irony of life is that hardly
> anyone gets out of it alive.
>
> "Mike" <mgld...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1181959852.593603.122560(a)k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jun 15, 6:52 pm, "Ed Hart" <ed-h...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > I have been quiet in this.Now I will say my dollars worth.
> > > Long before Brian Walker praised the shop at Renegades and suggested
> anyone
> > > here please use them because they were a good bunch of guys and he was
> > > wanting to help their business,I had 3 friends that used them and they
> > > SCREWED ALL of them equally.After Brian praised them,I went by there and
> > > looked at the inside of the storefront.Regardless of anyones opinion of
> me
> > > or my judgement,I saw serious problems.I kept my mouth shut
> anyway.Well,I
> > > just opened it.
> > > Brian:
> > > Identical to screwing a gal that gave several of your friends the
> CRUD.You
> > > may get away from it several times,but if you keep going back,sooner or
> > > later,you will get it also.
> > > Not judging anyone here.Just my opinion.
> > > Brian,go get you a shot of pennicillin and be damn glad it was
> something
> > > you could get ride of.
> > > Life Goes On---------------------
>
> > > --
> > > Ed Hart
> > > The supreme irony of life is that hardly
> > > anyone gets out of it alive.
>
> > > "Bill Walker" <bill.walk...(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> > >news:5NEci.51$%t6.12(a)trnddc02...
>
> > > > <mgld...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> > > >news:1181941126.243615.252350(a)p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > > > >I spent about 30 minutes writing a response to BRIAN WALKERS posts
> and
> > > > > decided not to post them here. I want to go on record as saying we
> did
> > > > > nothing wrong with his bike, he abused and cursed everyone within
> > > > > earshot, called another customer an SOB and basically spent about 30
> > > > > minutes issuing terrorist threats. If you would like to hear the
> whole
> > > > > story, call me at (972) 681-3588 and I will take the time to tell
> you
> > > > > our side. Brian is a liar at the least and a threat to society at
> > > > > best. Had Brian entered our store with a decent attitude, things
> would
> > > > > have worked out much differently for him. I feel sorry for him as an
> > > > > individual. It's apparent he has many issues with life in general.
> By
> > > > > the way, if you have access to publicdata.com, look Brian up.
> > > > > As a good will gesture, I have given Brians phone number to 3
> > > > > individuals who have called in the last 2 days interested in the
> bike.
> > > > > Brian, have a great day !
>
> > > > I am Brians' Dad and hardly unbiased.. Then again, I've been in your
> > > > shop and place of business.. If you recall, I've made several attempts
> > > > to do business with Renegade motorcycles in the past few years..
> > > > That was on the recommendation of none other but Brian Walker..
>
> > > > Noticeably, you did not sign your post on this newsgroup, so I have no
> > > > idea who I'm addressing, at this point..
>
> > > > For one reason or another, I've never allowed your shop to work on my
> > > > motorcycle.. Mostly, that has been due to the questionable abilities
> of
> > > > your own technicians working there..
>
> > > > Several of the participants on this newsgroup rode with Brian when he
> > > > was mounted on that same motorcycle which was consigned to your
> > > > business, for sale.. For what it is worth, we all know that motorcycle
> > > > and can vouch for it's condition.. And, I think for your own
> information,
> > > > and common knowledge amongst our friends on this newsgroup.. your
> > > > business is fortunate that it wasn't my motorcycle which you obviously
> > > > abused, while it was entrusted to you..
>
> > > > Most importantly.. the general condition of the motorcycles which
> gen-
> > > > erally sit in front of your store would be considered mostly salvage
> by
> > > > many of the riders who Brian and me ride with..
>
> > > > The tenor and tone of your post that you've seen fit to put on this
> news-
> > > > group is an indictment of yourself.. Obviously, you and your employees
> > > > are liable for the condition which that motorcycle was recovered by
> > > Brian..
>
> > > > There is no question of it's condition when it was placed in your
> > > > possession.
> > > > There is also no question of it's condition when Brian recovered it..
>
> > > > Calling Brian a liar and informing the public about his tirade and
> > > > supposedly
> > > > bad attitude in your shop, doesn't alleviate your lack of
> responsibility
> > > in
> > > > the neglect and abuse of that motorcycle while you had possession of
> it..
>
> > > > Bill Walker
> > > > Irving, Tx.
>
> > Ed,
> > You say we have screwed 3 people that you know. That's easy to say.
> > Why don't you name names. I could just as easily say you robbed 15
> > banks, and not name names. Give facts, not he said she said. Thanks.

I keep records on all our customers. If someone feels they were
screwed, I want to fix it. Should I just send you a check so you can
distribute the funds to your imaginary friends ? You don't want to get
involved but you don't mind throwing stones with no substance behind
your allegations. Can't help without knowing who feels like they got
shafted.

From: Ari Rankum on
Calgary wrote:

Thanks, Cal.

The only observation I can add is that I've witnessed brian and bill
walker flat out lie on this newsgroup many, many times. I've only ever
seen one other person lie on tx.motorcycles since I started lurking some
time after 2003. bill and brian have fabricated histories of things I,
and many others, know directly. So we have a lot of collective
knowledge of their propensity to be dishonest.

Because the behavior of brian and bill is known to be fallacious, I'm
inclined to give their accounting of facts zero weight in the presence
of an alternative set of facts. This is particularly true if the
alternative set of facts stipulates everything brian or bill says about
the behavior of the accused, but greatly elaborates on what brian or
bill did. This clearly pertains in the current walkerism.

Your best bet is to never take what a walker says for granted. If
you're a business owner, toss 'em out as soon as you get their ID.
Bill's right: I've never had any dealings with Renegade. Nonetheless,
just like I'm sorry when a small town has a sewage treatment plant
overflow across its borders, I'm sorry Renegade had to suffer brian as a
customer.
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