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From: Diogenes on 9 Apr 2010 08:32 On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 16:18:27 +1000, Albm&ctd <alb_mandctdNOWMD(a)connexus.net.au> wrote: >The ultimate aim is not just to ban load pipes... I'm all for banning load pipes... ================= Onya bike Gerry
From: Kevin Gleeson on 9 Apr 2010 09:09 On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:15:29 GMT, "George W Frost" <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >"Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message >news:d5str51i2e26m1sjjh3ekr603u6sesqlvr(a)4ax.com... >> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:44:31 +0000 (UTC), >> YnRAaHVtYmxldG93bi5vcmc=(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au (BT Humble) >> wrote: >> >>>Zebee Johnstone wrote: >>>> You won't make someone think you are worth preserving by being an >>>> arsehole to them. >>>> >>>> And if you think "well, if I pretend to be a bad person they will be >>>> scared of me, and that's good enough" then you are definitely >>>> suffering a false sense of security. >>> >>>I always wondered why the car drivers in "Mad Max" didn't just do a little >>>swerving when surrounded by Toecutter's gang... >> >> Because Bertrand Cadart would have been pissed off if they had hurt >> all those custom bikes he built? >> >> Kev > >Who built the chopper custom sidecar in one of the movies Kev? >Think it was yellow colour with a bubble type covering on the chair Bertrand built the bikes for Mad Max 1 only. He is now the mayor of the Glamorgan Council on Tassie's east coast. He lives in Bicheno and still speaks with an outrageous French accent [1] He's a top dude. Eccentric, but a real honest down to earth guy. In 2003 we were doing a survey ride prior to Australian Motorcycle Week and Bertrand was our East Coast rep. We went for a run out of Bicheno where I took his VW powered trike for a spin and he took my somewhat worked Hayabusa for a run. I found the trike quite weird as I had never ridden one before but I still recall him coming back into Bicheno and saying "Thees bike has too much horsepower, eet is insane!" Bollocks to that. I was thinking of turbocharging it at the time. He's a damn good rider though. The next day, he came with us to Hobart on his Goldwing and he could fair punt that thing along. Kev [1] OK, Belgian - but he seriously still sounds like a Monty Python sketch even after living in Australia for over 30 years.
From: Nev.. on 9 Apr 2010 10:00 On 9/04/2010 10:12 PM, George W Frost wrote: > "Nev.."<idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message > news:2_6dnYUD7Ju4RiPWnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au... >> On 9/04/2010 9:13 AM, thefathippy wrote: >> >>> Of course, my response is only based on anecdotal evidence, however, I >>> have noticed that car drivers have seemed more aware of me when I'm on >>> a loud bike than when I'm on a quiet bike (my current bikes have >>> standard exhausts). I've always put it down to what I call the "bikie >>> phenomenon". >> >> From your anecdotal evidence, which bikes did you have loud pipes on and >> which did/do you have quiet pipes on? >> >> Nev.. >> '08 DL1000K8 - Stock pipes, but equipped with 139dB airhorns which make >> plenty of noise on demand. > > And of coarse you know Nev, that the Victorian coppers have declared that > air horns are illegal? Bullshit. Nev.. '08 DL1000K8
From: Lee on 9 Apr 2010 10:14 On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:00:25 +1000, Nev.. <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote: > On 9/04/2010 10:12 PM, George W Frost wrote: >> "Nev.."<idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message >> news:2_6dnYUD7Ju4RiPWnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au... >>> On 9/04/2010 9:13 AM, thefathippy wrote: >>> >>>> Of course, my response is only based on anecdotal evidence, however, I >>>> have noticed that car drivers have seemed more aware of me when I'm on >>>> a loud bike than when I'm on a quiet bike (my current bikes have >>>> standard exhausts). I've always put it down to what I call the "bikie >>>> phenomenon". >>> >>> From your anecdotal evidence, which bikes did you have loud pipes on and >>> which did/do you have quiet pipes on? >>> >>> Nev.. >>> '08 DL1000K8 - Stock pipes, but equipped with 139dB airhorns which make >>> plenty of noise on demand. >> >> And of coarse you know Nev, that the Victorian coppers have declared that >> air horns are illegal? > > Bullshit. > what he said. *musical* air horns are illegal *to use as your primary horn* plain fixed/multi tone air horns are completely legal (as long as the tone doesn't keep changing). ADR42.4.20.2 applies: Warning Device Every motor vehicle must be fitted with a least one warning device capable of giving sufficient audible warning of the presence of the vehicle. It must give an audible signal having constant amplitude and frequency characteristics. It may be powered by any energy source including compressed air. http://www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/Legislation/LegislativeInstrumentCompilation1.nsf/0/73A110F4CE0C386FCA257376002046A0?OpenDocument -- Lee
From: Knobdoodle on 9 Apr 2010 10:21
"Albm&ctd" <alb_mandctdNOWMD(a)connexus.net.au> wrote: > Back in the '70's I had a 350 twin with Dunstall Decibels (sp) (read loud) > then > I bought a 350-4 with four standard pipes that one could hardly hear. I > found > out quickly by the shocked look on one drivers faces that he failed to > hear the > quiet bike. It was close to a T-bone... not in my favour. > I was also of this opinion after switching frrom a noisy, rattly 860GTS to a quiet-as-a-mouse 500SL Pantah on which I was constantly being lane-changed onto! That was in 1982 though. Now days with almost universal aircon (meaning "windows closed") and with much higher-powered in-car sound-systems I don't think the sound a bike generates makes that much of a difference. The *look* however still factors! -- Clem (http://xkcd.com/621/) |