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From: hippo on 14 Apr 2010 18:07 Nev.. wrote: > > On 14/04/2010 4:20 PM, hippo wrote: > > I've been procrastinating about whether to get a DL 650 for the last, erm, > > *while*, then last week it occured to me that it's not all that uesr > > friendly for a 157cm pillion, aka my loving wife. > > Is climbing on/off the pillion seat on the Strom really a problem or is > it just perceived to be a problem because it's not the same height as > she's been used to? Most Strom pillions love the big wide comfortable > seat and the pillion grab handles. She doens't need to reach the ground > from up there. > > Nev.. > '08 DL1000K8 > > Trying an SE Bonny next w/e & hopefully borrowing a Strom over the next f/n, so we'll see, but even with the GS, there were *very* occasional mount/dismount issues (combination of height, long body / short leg proportions & a hip articulation problem). The std Bonneville seat is a tad lower & narrower, so the K&Q probably ends up pretty similar to the GS. She's actually said if I ended up with a single seater she'd be happy for me but that she'd miss going on the back.... and no, she doesn't want to ride - we tried that with a scooter quite a while ago. I'd miss having a great pillion & travelling companion along too! -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: JL on 15 Apr 2010 03:50 On Apr 14, 6:24 pm, alx <alxr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 14, 6:01 pm, JL <jlitt...(a)my-deja.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 14, 5:51 pm, G-S <ge...(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: > > > > hippo wrote: > > > > I've been procrastinating about whether to get a DL 650 for the last, erm, > > > > *while*, then last week it occured to me that it's not all that uesr > > > > friendly for a 157cm pillion, aka my loving wife. > > > > > Mostly, whatever we get will be tooling round the South Coast solo with > > > > occasional solo & two up trips to a variety of places. I really don't want > > > > a cruiser. Anything with a pillion seat that needs a step ladder & an > > > > oxygen tank is right out, so that takes care of most sports bikes and big > > > > trailies (although I'd *like* a Street Triple, but it's not exactly a > > > > practical medium distance two up tourer, even occasionally). > > > > > Soooooo..... I thought I'd better look at a more traditional roadbike that > > > > will do at least most of what a slightly modified GS1100G used to do - and > > > > still does for its new owner from what I see & hear :) > > > > > Current thinking is leaning towards a Bonneville SE with a K&Q seat.. All > > > > feedback &/or alternatives welcome. > > > > If you like the idea of a bit of light dirt road touring and that's what > > > attracted you to the DL650 have you considered the Triumph Scrambler? > > > > It's basically a Bonneville that will handle made dirt roads a bit better... > > > No it's not. > > > It's a Bonnie made to LOOK like it'll handle dirt roads easier ('cos > > it looks a bit like dirt bikes used to when the orginal bonnie was > > released > > > JL > > No looking about it...It'll handle dirt roads better than a Bonnie. > (tyres for a start). Pfft, so put the same tyres on a bonnie. > And the Thruxton is no slouch in the dirt either....that's made more > for corners and sweepers than the Bonnie or Scrambler :-) All of the bonnie variants should be just fine on dirt - I can't imagine how the styling cues of the scrambler make the slightest difference, it's only claim to dirt road (not off road) capabilities is the set of dual purpose tyres it leaves the factory with. So fit a set of dual purpose tyres to a stock bonnie and it's same same.
From: Jeff R. on 15 Apr 2010 04:17 "JL" <jlittler(a)my-deja.com> wrote in message news:fdbcc705-7a60-4f18-8c1f-9b67f52925c2(a)h27g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > Pfft, so put the same tyres on a bonnie. > All of the bonnie variants should be just fine on dirt - I can't >... Pfft indeed. My driveway has a bit of lip where the footpath meets the drive - which then drops downhill for a bit. If I approach it (on the Bonnie) at anything other than right-angles - in just the right spot - it'll scrape. Lat time it broke the ($11) plastic clip that holds the high current lead to the starter motor. ($11 for a plastic clip! Did I mention that?) In short - *ground clearance* ! -- Jeff R.
From: G-S on 15 Apr 2010 05:15 hippo wrote: > G-S wrote: >> theo wrote: >>> On Apr 14, 4:01 pm, JL <jlitt...(a)my-deja.com> wrote: >>>> On Apr 14, 5:51 pm, G-S <ge...(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: >>>>> It's basically a Bonneville that will handle made dirt roads a bit > better... >>>> No it's not. >>>> >>>> It's a Bonnie made to LOOK like it'll handle dirt roads easier ('cos >>>> it looks a bit like dirt bikes used to when the orginal bonnie was >>>> released >>> I'm guessing it's got high pipes, knobby tyres, and useless lights >>> then. >>> >>> Theo >> And a bit more ground clearance :) >> >> >> G-S >> >> > > BSA had Scrambler models from before I was born through until the last few > years of the company's existence. Here's an earlier one: > http://fat.ly/k8bow > I know... they were nice bikes back then too :) [1] G-S [1] The modern version is quite a bit bigger though...
From: G-S on 15 Apr 2010 05:18
JL wrote: > On Apr 14, 6:24 pm, alx <alxr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Apr 14, 6:01 pm, JL <jlitt...(a)my-deja.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Apr 14, 5:51 pm, G-S <ge...(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: >>>> hippo wrote: >>>>> I've been procrastinating about whether to get a DL 650 for the last, erm, >>>>> *while*, then last week it occured to me that it's not all that uesr >>>>> friendly for a 157cm pillion, aka my loving wife. >>>>> Mostly, whatever we get will be tooling round the South Coast solo with >>>>> occasional solo & two up trips to a variety of places. I really don't want >>>>> a cruiser. Anything with a pillion seat that needs a step ladder & an >>>>> oxygen tank is right out, so that takes care of most sports bikes and big >>>>> trailies (although I'd *like* a Street Triple, but it's not exactly a >>>>> practical medium distance two up tourer, even occasionally). >>>>> Soooooo..... I thought I'd better look at a more traditional roadbike that >>>>> will do at least most of what a slightly modified GS1100G used to do - and >>>>> still does for its new owner from what I see & hear :) >>>>> Current thinking is leaning towards a Bonneville SE with a K&Q seat. All >>>>> feedback &/or alternatives welcome. >>>> If you like the idea of a bit of light dirt road touring and that's what >>>> attracted you to the DL650 have you considered the Triumph Scrambler? >>>> It's basically a Bonneville that will handle made dirt roads a bit better... >>> No it's not. >>> It's a Bonnie made to LOOK like it'll handle dirt roads easier ('cos >>> it looks a bit like dirt bikes used to when the orginal bonnie was >>> released >>> JL >> No looking about it...It'll handle dirt roads better than a Bonnie. >> (tyres for a start). > > Pfft, so put the same tyres on a bonnie. > >> And the Thruxton is no slouch in the dirt either....that's made more >> for corners and sweepers than the Bonnie or Scrambler :-) > > All of the bonnie variants should be just fine on dirt - I can't > imagine how the styling cues of the scrambler make the slightest > difference, it's only claim to dirt road (not off road) capabilities > is the set of dual purpose tyres it leaves the factory with. So fit a > set of dual purpose tyres to a stock bonnie and it's same same. The rear shocks/springs and front fork springs are different, that makes a difference. There is more ride height, that makes a difference also. How you can say more ride height and more appropriate suspension makes NO difference I honestly don't understand. G-S |