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From: Kevin Stone on 6 Jan 2010 12:14 > My 12 year old daughter wants to buy a digital camera > Can anyone suggest something suitable? I've had: FujiFilm: F10 (water damaged) F11 (upgraded) F31 (stolen) F45fd (wife's) F50fd (mine) and they're all brilliant. In fact ISTR the Gadget Show named the F31fd as the best of all time. I'd buy the F100EXR if my F50 wasn't so brill. Highly recommend any of them. -- Kev
From: Veggie Dave on 8 Jan 2010 09:22 Switters <me(a)privacy.net> wrote the following literary masterpiece: >Like most of their so-called tests. So, on par with a Which? test then... I can see a proper high-end DSLR giving a film camera a good run for its money, and possibly even winning when taking convenience into account. But when it comes to the best possible quality in every situation, film still wins by a long way. -- Veggie Dave http://www.iq18films.co.uk "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine
From: Grimly Curmudgeon on 8 Jan 2010 09:35 We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Switters <me(a)privacy.net> saying something like: >Wasn't the film camera the film equivalent Nikon or something? Iirc, yes - a decent pro model. >> If the test was supposed to demonstrate ultimate resolving power of >> either, the film body should have been loaded with ISO100, > >Velvia would have got my vote, but I suppose the average Joe would have >used some 100 film. I suggested ISO 100 to even it out - Istr faster speeds on digis are just amplification of the sensor base sensitivity, of around 100. I'm pretty sure Adox CMS-20 would have shown the dSLR a clean pair of heels. http://www.lumiere-shop.de/product_info.php/info/p3924_ADOX--CMS-20--135-36.html (not Gigapan as said, it's also sold by somebody else as Giga-something, which I mis-recalled)
From: TOG on 8 Jan 2010 11:12 On 8 Jan, 14:35, Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REM...(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote: > We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the > drugs began to take hold. I remember Switters <m...(a)privacy.net> saying > something like: > > >Wasn't the film camera the film equivalent Nikon or something? > > Iirc, yes - a decent pro model. > > >> If the test was supposed to demonstrate ultimate resolving power of > >> either, the film body should have been loaded with ISO100, > > >Velvia would have got my vote, but I suppose the average Joe would have > >used some 100 film. > > I suggested ISO 100 to even it out - Istr faster speeds on digis are > just amplification of the sensor base sensitivity, of around 100. > > I'm pretty sure Adox CMS-20 would have shown the dSLR a clean pair of > heels.http://www.lumiere-shop.de/product_info.php/info/p3924_ADOX--CMS-20--... > (not Gigapan as said, it's also sold by somebody else as Giga-something, > which I mis-recalled) I've got a D100 and an F100. We could do a test ourselves, except the D100 is a bit vieux chapeau now. My D200 wouldbe better, or a new D300 better still.
From: Simian on 8 Jan 2010 16:10
TOG(a)Toil wrote: > http://www.sportbikeworld.com/gallery/data/522/3604wayneGcrash.jpg > > That was actually a crop from a small corner of a picture depicting > other bikes. [...] > Hard to see a digi getting that high a resolution - the area was maybe > one-eighth of the total 35mm area. Certainly under a quarter. That actual jpeg is 1/100th the pixel area of the current top of the range Canon DLSR. This (f5.6, 400mm, 1/100th, ISO800, no post processing other than the crop): http://128.177.27.150/photo/plog-content/images/places/south-africa/img_ 1947.jpg is a crop to 1/8th of the current top of the range Canon, though obviously not taken with one... Taken through the window of a moving bus, in the rain (note the raindrops in the focal plane), which is why it's a bit blurred. |