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From: Vito on 10 Nov 2009 17:14 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8239410.stm If there are no other clubs to fight they kill their own bros.
From: BrianNZ on 10 Nov 2009 19:49 Vito wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8239410.stm > > If there are no other clubs to fight they kill their own bros. > > "They were at the very bottom rung of biker gangs. Some were in their 40s but still lived with their parents. They were not making any money, many of them had been rejected by the Hells Angels and half of them didn't even own a motorbike," he said. Mr Edwards says they were forced to dump the cars with the bodies in because they were "too cheap to buy enough gasoline". "They didn't even set fire to the bodies or the cars," he says. All six men were jailed to life, which means they will not be eligible for parole for at least 25 years. >> 0.25%ers?
From: don (Calgary) on 10 Nov 2009 20:48 On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:49:38 +1300, BrianNZ <brian(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote: >Vito wrote: >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8239410.stm >> >> If there are no other clubs to fight they kill their own bros. >> >> > > >"They were at the very bottom rung of biker gangs. Some were in their >40s but still lived with their parents. They were not making any money, >many of them had been rejected by the Hells Angels and half of them >didn't even own a motorbike," he said. > >Mr Edwards says they were forced to dump the cars with the bodies in >because they were "too cheap to buy enough gasoline". > >"They didn't even set fire to the bodies or the cars," he says. > >All six men were jailed to life, which means they will not be eligible >for parole for at least 25 years When is twenty-five years not twenty-five years? When it is a prison term imposed in Canada. Given these guys were convicted of multiple murders they have fewer outs, but they still have a couple of "get out of jail free" cards to play. First there is the standard two for one credit for time served waiting for trial. That is sometimes extended to three times. I don't know what was granted in this case. Then we have the faint hope clause. This one means prisoners in Canada sentenced to longer than 15 years without parole can apply for parole after 15 years. Now this one may not apply to those convicted of multiple murders, but I know of a few multiple murderers, Clifford Olson comes to mind, who are able to make application for early release. I know it is dumb, stupid and doesn't make any sense, but it is Canada and when it comes to criminal law, little of it does make sense. Now the current conservative government is trying to have the faint hope clause repealed. I think a bill was introduced to the House earlier this year, but I don't think it has been passed. If it hasn't these murders, after serving fifteen years, after the two for one or three for one adjustment, may be able to apply to the Chief Justice for relief under the faint hope clause. So if they were in jail for a year and half waiting for trial and they got three for one credit, after the faint hope clause kicks in, they could be eligible for parole after ten and a half years. And if all that fails they could file a Charter challenge for almost any stupid reason and given the goofy decisions related to Charter challenges almost anything is possible. Since this is a murder conviction mandatory release will not apply but for other crimes we have to release criminals into the community after they serve two thirds of their sentence, after all of the above adjustments, regardless of their history of prison activities. I may be a cynic, but I doubt these guys will still be in prison in twenty-five years. Not in Canada. Let's see if we can coax Joe Arpaio to move up here and become our Justice Minister.
From: The Older Gentleman on 11 Nov 2009 02:22 don (Calgary) <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote: <snip> > know it is dumb, stupid and doesn't make any sense, but it is Canada > and when it comes to criminal law, little of it does make sense. <snip> Discovered this myself when busting the Nigerian scam gangs in Canada a while back. Toronto, and to a lesser extent Montreal, are infested with the bastards. Up there with London, Amsterdam and the southern coast of Spain. Half of them seem to be passing themselves off as students. The authorities simply don't care. You could report 'em, hand over a massive amount of data, email addies, bank details, the lot, and they'd ignore it. The Dutch and the Brits take a slightly more robust view. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Vito on 11 Nov 2009 07:20
"don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote | Let's see if we can coax Joe Arpaio to move up here and become our | Justice Minister. Maybe. If you believe Al Gore and our current government, your climate will be like Arizona in a few months ... unless we give India, et al, a few $trillion. That'll stop global warming. |