Changes in the 2009 Australian road rules regarding navigation equipment.
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From: John Tserkezis on 19 Feb 2010 02:29 I've just properly read Part 18, section 299 of the 2009 Australian Road Rules, and the bit about visual displays not allowable. There is an exception in place for "driver's aids", of which navigation is one example. The 2008 road rules (of which NSW currently follows) says (in part): (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if: (b) the visual display unit is, or is part of, a driver�s aid, or Fine, now the 2009 ARR says (again in part): (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if: (b) the vehicle is not a motor bike and the visual display unit is, or is part of, a driver�s aid and either � It's the motor bike bike I'm interested in. This implies that the 2009 exception does NOT apply if the vehicle is a motor bike. That is, no motor bikes are allowed SatNav devices at all, if (or when) NSW starts following the 2009 revision. Again, I know this does NOT CURRENTLY apply, I'm just concerned they may sneak this one in if (or when) they do apply it.
From: Marty H on 19 Feb 2010 04:07 On Feb 19, 6:29 pm, John Tserkezis <j...(a)techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote: > I've just properly read Part 18, section 299 of the 2009 Australian > Road Rules, and the bit about visual displays not allowable. > > There is an exception in place for "driver's aids", of which navigation > is one example. > > The 2008 road rules (of which NSW currently follows) says (in part): > > (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if: > (b) the visual display unit is, or is part of, a drivers aid, or > > Fine, now the 2009 ARR says (again in part): > > (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if: > (b) the vehicle is not a motor bike and the visual display > unit is, or is part of, a drivers aid and either > > It's the motor bike bike I'm interested in. This implies that the 2009 > exception does NOT apply if the vehicle is a motor bike. That is, no > motor bikes are allowed SatNav devices at all, if (or when) NSW starts > following the 2009 revision. > > Again, I know this does NOT CURRENTLY apply, I'm just concerned they > may sneak this one in if (or when) they do apply it. I could be wrong but if the rules are the same as the Vicroads, which I believe they are now cos every state is suppose to be standardised the Exemption is about The rule relating to "securing" visual display units does not apply to motorcycles. The visual display unit just doesn't have to be an integrated part of the vehicle design, or secured in a commercially designed holder, which is fixed to the vehicle as it does for cars i.e a gps can sit in the clear part of your tank bag on a motorcycle, but on a car it cant sit in your centre console in other words...its a little win for us mh
From: Marty H on 19 Feb 2010 04:09 On Feb 19, 6:29 pm, John Tserkezis <j...(a)techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote: > I've just properly read Part 18, section 299 of the 2009 Australian > Road Rules, and the bit about visual displays not allowable. > > There is an exception in place for "driver's aids", of which navigation > is one example. > > The 2008 road rules (of which NSW currently follows) says (in part): > > (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if: > (b) the visual display unit is, or is part of, a drivers aid, or > > Fine, now the 2009 ARR says (again in part): > > (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if: > (b) the vehicle is not a motor bike and the visual display > unit is, or is part of, a drivers aid and either > > It's the motor bike bike I'm interested in. This implies that the 2009 > exception does NOT apply if the vehicle is a motor bike. That is, no > motor bikes are allowed SatNav devices at all, if (or when) NSW starts > following the 2009 revision. > > Again, I know this does NOT CURRENTLY apply, I'm just concerned they > may sneak this one in if (or when) they do apply it. also, it might be wise to post a link to the whole rule here is the pricktoads one http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/7A638F24-E530-4FBD-BABF-D1753B254980/0/FACTSHEET_MobilePhonesVDUs.pdf
From: John Tserkezis on 19 Feb 2010 05:17
On 19/02/2010 8:09 PM, Marty H wrote: > also, it might be wise to post a link to the whole rule > here is the pricktoads one > http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/7A638F24-E530-4FBD-BABF-D1753B254980/0/FACTSHEET_MobilePhonesVDUs.pdf Ah, that's a lot clearer now. The wording could have been taken in a couple of different ways. The documents I used where: Australian Road rules 2009: <http://www.ntc.gov.au/filemedia/Reports/ARR_February_2009_final.pdf> Australian Road rules 2008: <http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_reg/rr2008104/> Part 18, Section 299 "Television receivers and visual display units in motor vehicles" is the part of interest. Both are very similar, with the 2009 revision stating the Motor bike exception, the driver's aid must either be a factory install or fastened to the vehicle with a commercially available holder designed for the purpose, and a more clear exception to allow for displays in Police and emergency vehicles. The vicroads addition you linked to, pretty much paraphrases that. My confusion stems from the boolean logic wording they used. 299(2)(b) says, if NOT a motorbike AND display is an aid, then the exception applies. Since we're talking about bikes, 299(2)(b) cannot apply, so there is no exception for that condition (bikes). |