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From: Vito on 12 Nov 2009 13:19 "Lookout" <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote | ..... EVERY crime committed with a gun should get | you 5 years. No if, ands or buts. ... Actually there is exactly such a federal law on the books, lobbied in by none other than NRA. It worked extremely well when it was enforced in Richmond, Va. The problem is that local prosecutors use it to plea bargain convictions on lesser crimes. In an ideal world, an armed robber would get X years for robbery then another five for using a gun - once he is convicted. In our world prosecutors would rather play golf than work to get convictions. So the same armed robber gets offeres a sweetheart sentence for the robbery and the federal charge is dropped to get him to plead. Why? Think about it. How many police, prosecutors and judges would we need if there was no crime. It is their nightmare!
From: RM v2.0 on 12 Nov 2009 13:25 > No one is denying that. > >>Maybe they will shoot you next. > > I don't live in Chicago. > > The problem is a lack of gun and gun owner control.. What a dumbass statement. THEY ARE BANNED! How much more control can you get?
From: RM v2.0 on 12 Nov 2009 13:29 > It's not a lack of guns..you're missing the point. There are a lot of > US military personnel who won their own weapons. The fact is that they > are locked up in a secure place AWAY FROM THE OWNER when not in use. > This stops crimes of passion such as a fight with a spouse. It's OWN > CONTOL as much as gun control IMHO. > ALL hand guns should be licensed > ALL hand guns owner should be registered AFTER proper training and > screening > > Simple and no one is being deprived of a gun. Ok, how are you going to get the criminals to do that? Nasan was trained and screened.
From: RM v2.0 on 12 Nov 2009 13:30 "Lookout" <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ataof55m57mqqtibaa81f4am1pfrsm1u9p(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:48:18 -0800 (PST), Benj <bjacoby(a)iwaynet.net> > wrote: > >>On Nov 12, 12:46 am, Lookout <mrLook...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> There are. Look at military installations. >>> It won't work at the state level as you can just go to the next state >>> and buy what you want. We need NATIONAL laws that are enforced. >> >>Nope won't work there either, "lookout". People will just have the >>flood of "immigrants" from mexico import a flod of guns along with >>themselves. > > And I think the borders should be closed. > > Oopps..there goes my "liberal" title again Not closed but locked down tighter.
From: RD (The Sandman) on 12 Nov 2009 13:45
"Vito" <vito(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote in news:4afc51b4$0$5096$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com: > "Lookout" <mrLookout(a)yahoo.com> wrote >| ..... EVERY crime committed with a gun should get >| you 5 years. No if, ands or buts. ... > > Actually there is exactly such a federal law on the books, lobbied in > by none other than NRA. It worked extremely well when it was enforced > in Richmond, Va. Project Exile. The problem is that local prosecutors use it to plea > bargain convictions on lesser crimes. In an ideal world, an armed > robber would get X years for robbery then another five for using a gun > - once he is convicted. In our world prosecutors would rather play > golf than work to get convictions. So the same armed robber gets > offeres a sweetheart sentence for the robbery and the federal charge > is dropped to get him to plead. Why? Think about it. How many > police, prosecutors and judges would we need if there was no crime. > It is their nightmare! > > > -- Sleep well tonight, RD (The Sandman) Let's see if I have this healthcare thingy right. Congress is to pass a plan written by a committee whose head has said he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who hasn't read it, with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes because he didn't understand TurboTax, overseen by an obese Surgeon General and financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? |