From: jl on
G-S wrote:
> JL wrote:
>> On Dec 4, 1:48 pm, Diogenes <cy...(a)society.sux.ok> wrote:
>>> You think I'm on the wrong track, I think I'm on the right track. You
>>> are a capitalist pig and I am socialist scum.
>>
>> Man, how confusing, Doug thinks I'm a left wing socialist, and you
>> think I'm a right wing capitalist pig (isn't it normally pig dog ?).
>
> Yes but Doug thinks George Bush is a moderate and Ronald Reagan was a
> socialist.
>

Heheh I suspect you may be right errm left errm correct !

JL
and JWH was really a soft centred moderate too...
From: jl on
Nev.. wrote:
> jl wrote:

>> Oh give me a break, you don't *have* to reinvent yourself every 5
>> years, most people will do it once. Job categories don't currently
>> disappear that fast.
>
> Yeah, the distributed computing guys have been talking about the
> impending demise of the mainframe for years. Most of the mainframe
> people at my work have never had a career change and are 20+yr
> employees. We installed the newest IBM mainframe last week. IBM are
> taking us out to lunch next week. Dell never take us out for lunch.

Aaah yes the much predicted death of the mainframe... after 20 years I'm
sure it'll happen soon

JL
also still waiting but not too worried if it does
From: Diogenes on
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:20:48 +1100, jl <not-here(a)nowhere.com> wrote:

>Diogenes wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:46:23 -0800 (PST), JL <jlittler(a)my-deja.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 4, 1:48 pm, Diogenes <cy...(a)society.sux.ok> wrote:
>>
>>>> You think I'm on the wrong track, I think I'm on the right track. You
>>>> are a capitalist pig and I am socialist scum.
>>> Man, how confusing, Doug thinks I'm a left wing socialist, and you
>>> think I'm a right wing capitalist pig (isn't it normally pig dog ?).
>>
>>> I guess that means I probably am in the political centre as I always
>>> suspected
>>
>> I would never accuse you of being "left"...
>
>Indeed, that was my point.

>(the fact that I support welfare, govt intervention into malfunctioning
>markets and am skeptical about privitisation and suport environmentally
>sound policies makes me left wing according to Doug)

We'll make a good socialist of you yet. But not till you realise what
is wrong with the globalised capitalism.

But we are patient...

You're still young...

And impressionable...

And probably still thinking with your penis...


Onya bike...

Gerry
From: Diogenes on
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:53:25 +1100, Diogenes <cynic(a)society.sux.ok>
wrote:

>>Propaganda is, generically, disingenuous facts presented in a
>>deliberately misleading manner or light.. I don't see anything
>>disingenuous about JL's post.
>
>Pay attention now, Yeebok. This may be a bit complex for you: You
>used the word "generally". This implies that there may be exceptions.
>Ergo, there may be other forms of propaganda as well. You can take
>it as read that I was meaning one of those other forms.

<sheepish look>

Oops... I just noticed that you actually said "generically" and not
"generally".

Can we pretend you said "generally" ???

That way it all still makes sense.

If not, then can I suggest that in fact you SHOULD have said
"generally", because popaganda takes many forms and the form you
described is only one of many?

There, I knew it would be all right.

Goodnight...


Onya bike...

Gerry
From: jl on
Diogenes wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:20:48 +1100, jl <not-here(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> Diogenes wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:46:23 -0800 (PST), JL <jlittler(a)my-deja.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 1:48 pm, Diogenes <cy...(a)society.sux.ok> wrote:
>>>>> You think I'm on the wrong track, I think I'm on the right track. You
>>>>> are a capitalist pig and I am socialist scum.
>>>> Man, how confusing, Doug thinks I'm a left wing socialist, and you
>>>> think I'm a right wing capitalist pig (isn't it normally pig dog ?).
>>>> I guess that means I probably am in the political centre as I always
>>>> suspected
>>> I would never accuse you of being "left"...
>> Indeed, that was my point.
>
>> (the fact that I support welfare, govt intervention into malfunctioning
>> markets and am skeptical about privitisation and suport environmentally
>> sound policies makes me left wing according to Doug)
>
> We'll make a good socialist of you yet.

Gerry there are a lot of people who might make a socialist out of me,
but at the going rate you're not one of them.

The part where you start coming up with rational argument is the part
where you start having influence over my view point, until then...


> But not till you realise what
> is wrong with the globalised capitalism.

Well, do tell, we're all still waiting...

> But we are patient...

Good to hear, given I have a good 20 years on you, you may well die
first, maybe you should consider sharpening your rhetoric instead of
hoping for attrition by time

> You're still young...

Not really, I'm old enough not to be easily swayed, and even the naive
wouldn't be swayed by your attempts to date.

> And impressionable...

Not likely.

> And probably still thinking with your penis...

Probably true, most blokes do. It's the way society works, we're
programmed to do the things that improve our chances of reproducing,
bloody conquests, rendering opponents limb from limb, that sort of
thing. Apparently it impresses the ladies and reduces the competition or
something.

JL