From: Krusty on
Chris N Deuchar wrote:

> In article <hegbrp$877$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid says...
> > Conor wrote:
> > > In article <hee35f$rt$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Krusty
> says...
> >
> > > > I'd guess that being professional drivers they know they're
> > > > making it harder for people,
> > >
> > > No.
>
> Agreed - so point taken, I will think about this more in future.

That'd be lovely, especially if you can spread the word. It's always
been a bit of a niggle, but I've been doing a couple of hundred miles a
week on unlit roads recently & it's become a major frustration. Getting
stuck at 40 for several miles of bends because you missed your chance
to overtake due to not knowing a straight was long enough isn't my idea
of fun.

> > If that's never been an issue for you, then either you never drive
> on
> > unlit, unknown roads at night, or you're happy to sit at 40mph.
>
> For any single track road that maximum is the law for HGV/LGV trucks
> anyway...
> ...you did know that didn't you?

Yes, that's why I said it!


--
Krusty

'03 Tiger 955i '02 MV Senna '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
From: Krusty on
Chris N Deuchar wrote:

> In article <hegchi$ccg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> dontwantany(a)nowhere.invalid says...
> >
> > Chris N Deuchar wrote:
> > > Good point - and also because as soon as you put things on main
> beam
> > > some git will come the other way - but probably more likely
> > > because you expect anyone overtaking to use their own main beam!
> >
> > How would that work then? Main bean doesn't tend to penetrate 40' of
> > artic, & pulling out to the other side of the road is hardly safe
> > when you've no idea where the road goes.
>
> I was thinking of being somewhere in between those two extremes...
> ...around the white line for instance?

You can on a bike, or if there are enough clues such as telephone poles
or trees to see it's straight enough to do so. But it's still dodgy as
the road might bend left just after the point you creep out, & it means
blasting the driver's mirror with full beam which isn't something I
want to do.


--
Krusty

'03 Tiger 955i '02 MV Senna '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
From: Krusty on
Conor wrote:

> Do HGV drivers tend to behave quite well in regards to bikers?

Generally, yes. Apart from when they're doing the 'block the right lane
of a dual carriageway because it's about to turn into single
carriageway' thing.

--
Krusty

'03 Tiger 955i '02 MV Senna '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
From: Krusty on
Conor wrote:

>
> Maybe I should stop bothering moving over to the left on a wide SC
> road to let them past in future....

When you do move over, please don't move too far. I'd rather find my
own way past than get a face-full of mud & gravel kicked up from the
edge of the road.

--
Krusty

'03 Tiger 955i '02 MV Senna '96 Tiger (for sale)
'79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
From: Clive George on
"Conor" <conor(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.2575bcb81051f5fd989983(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <hee35f$rt$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Krusty says...
>
>> As an (ex) HGV driver, can you answer the original question? If you
>> didn't see it, the gist was why do the vast majority of HGV drivers
>> never use full beam at night, thus making it much harder for the
>> cars/bikes stuck behind them to overtake as they can't see when there's
>> a straight bit of road ahead?
>>
> Because they don't go fast enough to need it, are on roads they know.
> There's something else which I would like to explain but have trouble
> articulating. Its kind of like an ability to see better at night because
> you do so much of it.
>
>> I'd guess that being professional drivers they know they're making it
>> harder for people,
>
> No.
>
>> so is it just that they like keeping everyone behind
>> them, or are they just too lazy to flick between full & dip? It is a
>> serious question btw.
>
> They have no need to put full beam on. Its not being lazy or doing it to
> be annoying - its just that they don't feel the need to.

Some do - the 4 big lights on top of the cab isn't that uncommon an
accessory, and I see them being used round here. That's way more power than
normal full beam, which suggests that not everybody subscribes to your view.


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