From: Doc on
The issue of red-light cams has come up in Florida. An article in
today's paper doesn't seem to indicate that there's any method to
prove that the light was actually red when the car went through the
intersection - such as a second photo showing your vehicle in the
intersection and the light.

In states where these systems are in place, do they include any such
evidence to verify the red light or is it simply assumed that the
system is perfect, that the photo of your plate was taken properly and
that of course you were in violation?

From: James Robinson on
"Doc" <docsavage20(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> The issue of red-light cams has come up in Florida. An article in
> today's paper doesn't seem to indicate that there's any method to
> prove that the light was actually red when the car went through the
> intersection - such as a second photo showing your vehicle in the
> intersection and the light.

The ones I've seen descriptions of take a series of photographs, and
include one of the signals in the image. That verifies that the light was
indeed red, and shows how the vehicle moved to eliminate any speculation
about what the vehicle did.
From: k_flynn on
Doc wrote:
> The issue of red-light cams has come up in Florida. An article in
> today's paper doesn't seem to indicate that there's any method to
> prove that the light was actually red when the car went through the
> intersection - such as a second photo showing your vehicle in the
> intersection and the light.
>
> In states where these systems are in place, do they include any such
> evidence to verify the red light or is it simply assumed that the
> system is perfect, that the photo of your plate was taken properly and
> that of course you were in violation?

Yes, they do, the ones I have seen. Do you have a link to the article
you referenced? I'd like to read it.

From: Calgary on
On 21 Feb 2007 16:40:13 -0800, "Doc" <docsavage20(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>The issue of red-light cams has come up in Florida. An article in
>today's paper doesn't seem to indicate that there's any method to
>prove that the light was actually red when the car went through the
>intersection - such as a second photo showing your vehicle in the
>intersection and the light.
>
>In states where these systems are in place, do they include any such
>evidence to verify the red light or is it simply assumed that the
>system is perfect, that the photo of your plate was taken properly and
>that of course you were in violation?

In Calgary the camera captures a picture of the car, the plate # and
the light. The newer ones also capture the speed you are traveling.
Allegedly, tickets and fines are levied only if you enter the
intersection on the red light.


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From: brink on

<k_flynn(a)lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1172106334.593707.145730(a)s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> Doc wrote:
>> The issue of red-light cams has come up in Florida. An article in
>> today's paper doesn't seem to indicate that there's any method to
>> prove that the light was actually red when the car went through the
>> intersection - such as a second photo showing your vehicle in the
>> intersection and the light.
>>
>> In states where these systems are in place, do they include any such
>> evidence to verify the red light or is it simply assumed that the
>> system is perfect, that the photo of your plate was taken properly and
>> that of course you were in violation?
>
> Yes, they do, the ones I have seen. Do you have a link to the article
> you referenced? I'd like to read it.

While we're on the subject, I'd like to know how the RLC differentiates
between legal movements against a red light (specifically right turns on
red) from illegal movements. Anyone?

brink


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