From: S'mee on
On Dec 27, 9:19 pm, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

Glad you are okay and the bike was barely dinged.

> Embarrassing, embarrassing, embarrassing.

Well yeah, that's life though innit? I mean rarely does anyone drop a
motorcycle when noboy is around...but whoo-boy when your friends or a
large group is present? BANG! down you go and always in a manner to
make you look incredably silly.
From: mayner on
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:55:18 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Gaidheal <breoganmacbrath(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 28, 10:24 am, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older
>> Gentleman) wrote:
>>
>> > As well, if you think about it, because of the V configuration, its
>> > heads and cams are actually *lower* than they would be with a
>> > conventional transverse four engine (slant-block lumps excepted).
>>
>> Moments related of CoM work along all three axes, Bertie.
>> >
>> > You've never ridden one, so what do you know?
>>
>> Dood, you do not know that for certain, fer sure.
>
>Call it a well-educated guess.
>
>You haven't. Your motorcycle experience ends with the Yamaha FZR1000 of
>fifteen years ago.

Nice bike, but no ST. ;-)

From: mayner on
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:34:31 -0500, "Datesfat Chicks"
<datesfat.chicks(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>"Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chicks(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:cdmdnblt1a8lrKXWnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>
>> Anyway, when I return the bike tomorrow I'll fess up and offer to pay for
>> a new skid pad on the right (about $20, and I think technically it is
>> called an engine cover or engine protector).
>
>Here is how that story ended ...
>
>Turned it in today, fessed up my crimes. The part was about $19, and with
>shipping and Florida sales tax I paid $29. They concurred with my
>assessment that nothing else was damaged.
>
>When I told them I expected to be gouged, they only said that they
>appreciated my honesty and they had no need to replace anything other than
>what I damaged. They indicated that my honesty wasn't typical.
>
>I know that is true. When I rented a Shadow 750 Aero a year ago, I brought
>it back after 24 hours to point out to the guy that there was headlight
>damage that wasn't detected on the rental inspection. He believed me and
>documented it and that was that. He was amazed that one of the previous
>renters had done a rather convincing job of covering the damage with some
>sort of silver paint.
>
>Personally, if I spilled a bike and damaged a headlight I'd just fess up.
>On a little Honda it is probably at worst a $100 part.
>
>Of course, part of the reason people don't fess up could be that they don't
>want to defraud the rental place, but they are embarrassed that they spilled
>a bike. I can understand that.
>
>Really nice bike once I got used to it. Transmission is much nicer than my
>Honda Shadow 600, and of course better brakes, better suspension, a cool
>electrically-adjustable windscreen, and one hell of a lot more power. The
>engine is far smootther, too. I was often doing between 90 and 100 on I-4.
>But that was just for survival in the left lane. Those people is crazy.
>
>I now believe that there is a substantial difference between a $5,000 bike
>and a $16,000 bike. But I'm afraid I won't be owning a $16,000 bike anytime
>soon. It is not just the initial cost--it is the worse gas mileage, the
>insurance, etc. My little lawnmower with wheels will do for now.
>
>Datesfat


I regularly get 40 to 45mpg. That's riding slab, twisties, whatever.
You can find lightly used, 3 to 4 year old ST's for under 9k. The bike
hasn't changed, except for a few bits here and there, and the color,
since it came out in '03.
From: Jack Hunt on
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:34:31 -0500, "Datesfat Chicks"
<datesfat.chicks(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> I was often doing between 90 and 100 on I-4.

That's easy to do. You can't "feel" how fast you're going on an ST. 60 feels
just like 90.

>I now believe that there is a substantial difference between a $5,000 bike
>and a $16,000 bike.

You can get a used ST1100 for less than $5,000. I've compared them. The 13 is
a very nice bike, but it's not nice enough to make me switch. It gets 50mpg, it
will run 300 to 350 miles per tank of gas, and with a good Corbin seat you can
do Iron Butt days on it with no discomfort. The first time I got out of town
with my first ('91) ST, I rode 1300 miles before stopping to sleep, then another
400 miles the next morning.

When it comes to tires, the 1100 is *hugely* more friendly to an at-home tire
change. Changing the rear tire on a 13 is the hardest tire switch I've ever
done. I hope I never have to do another. I used to put three sets a year on my
1100 so I thought nothing of it when a campground guest asked me to help him
change the rear tire on his 1300. I won't do that again unless there's a lot of
money or a threat of violence involved. Actually the violence wouldn't work.
I'd prefer the violence to changing that tire.

--
Jack Hunt IBA#12795, STOC 1870
'99 ST1100, FaST Forward
'95 Suzuki DR250SE
http://www.huntslodge.com
From: mayner on
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:24:37 -0800 (PST), "S'mee"
<stevenkeith2(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 27, 9:19�pm, "Datesfat Chicks" <datesfat.chi...(a)gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>Glad you are okay and the bike was barely dinged.
>
>> Embarrassing, embarrassing, embarrassing.
>
>Well yeah, that's life though innit? I mean rarely does anyone drop a
>motorcycle when noboy is around...but whoo-boy when your friends or a
>large group is present? BANG! down you go and always in a manner to
>make you look incredably silly.


Just remember to let go of the handlebars and you'll be OK. A little
tap dance and you're clear. Hold on and you can find yourself 10 feet
down the road in an instant. ;-)
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