From: JayC on 3 Feb 2010 12:16 > > Did you hear the recently released 911 call from the father of a family > of 4 as their car hit the end of the freeway at 120 mph? It was chilling > hearing the pleas' for help and the final screams of his family as they > hit the barrier and went over the cliff. I heard it the other day and > still shake when I think of it.. The real shame is that the guy, a police officer, was too unfamiliar with operating a vehicle to put it into neutral when the throttle stuck. That technique is taught in driver's ed in high school. Instead, they made a cell phone call. JayC
From: JayC on 3 Feb 2010 12:18 > I'm afraid I may be having too much fun watching this Toyota debacle > unfold. I have always thought that fly by wire systems were a sketchy > proposition. Did they sub it out to Lucas? Toyota's throttle problem is a mechanical one, not electrical. Not enough WD40. JayC
From: Dean H on 3 Feb 2010 12:19 > > Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike? > > Many recent sport bikes are done exactly that way. I think the R1 was > the first, 2 or 3 years ago. > > So, my answer is if that meant I had an R1, yes. > > -- > Charles > '99 YZ250 It is very cool technology that opens up many possibilities but also opens up new problems. I suppose that once you get to EFI, you're most of the way there anyway. And the elegance of FBW really shines when you get to multi-cylinder engines. In the case of this mysterious Toyota malfunction that was first the mats, then certain gas pedals to be fixed with first a shim, then with a reinforcing rod... there's reasonable speculation that they don't know what they're really chasing. I suspect that with pedals sending bad info now and then, they might be suffering one of computing's oldest snafus; Garbage In - Garbage Out. <something about fail-safe and fail-soft...> Just making conversation... picturing Tami and Harrell patching together the system with bobby pins and chewing gum.
From: I am Tosk on 3 Feb 2010 12:24 In article <6682aaac-3e39-40b6-a15c-679de7891715 @b35g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>, jwc(a)sysmatrix.net says... > > > > Did you hear the recently released 911 call from the father of a family > > of 4 as their car hit the end of the freeway at 120 mph? It was chilling > > hearing the pleas' for help and the final screams of his family as they > > hit the barrier and went over the cliff. I heard it the other day and > > still shake when I think of it.. > > The real shame is that the guy, a police officer, was too unfamiliar > with operating a vehicle to put it into neutral when the throttle > stuck. That technique is taught in driver's ed in high school. > Instead, they made a cell phone call. > > JayC Yup, I keep thinking about that. He panicked and killed his whole family... Scotty RMR
From: Dean H on 3 Feb 2010 13:40
On Feb 3, 12:24 pm, I am Tosk <justwaitafrekinmin...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <6682aaac-3e39-40b6-a15c-679de7891715 > @b35g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>, j...(a)sysmatrix.net says... > > > > > > > Did you hear the recently released 911 call from the father of a family > > > of 4 as their car hit the end of the freeway at 120 mph? It was chilling > > > hearing the pleas' for help and the final screams of his family as they > > > hit the barrier and went over the cliff. I heard it the other day and > > > still shake when I think of it.. > > > The real shame is that the guy, a police officer, was too unfamiliar > > with operating a vehicle to put it into neutral when the throttle > > stuck. That technique is taught in driver's ed in high school. > > Instead, they made a cell phone call. > > > JayC > > Yup, I keep thinking about that. He panicked and killed his whole > family... > > Scotty RMR Wow, Darwin was right! |