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From: HardWorkingDog on 4 Feb 2010 11:48 In article <8c1ffd9e-8f44-48ca-bd0c-f9459abb244a(a)c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, XR650L_Dave <spamTHISbrp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > On earlier models the abs was locked out if you put the vehicle in > > 4wd... I wish they didn't drop that idea. > > I was playing with my abs the other day in the snow just to confirm > > that it does infact work in 4wd (and it does). On the right hill, if > > the abs engages... you may not stop... �unless you can let up enough > > to get it disengaged and still stop. �It's clear to me that abs has > > the potential to cause several wrecks every time it snows. It takes > > much longer to stop... if it stops at all in some really slick low/ > > medium speed situations (especially downhill). > > Yes, hence my readiness to turn the key off your yank the Ebrake. > > Some people pull the ABS fuse for winter, but to me it's a system with > lots of benefit with one situation where it hurts, so I've decided on > a backup plan for when the ABS is doing it's not-helpful thing. Hmmm. Put a switch in the fused line, mount it somewhere inconspicuously safe...then you can control the ABS. -- Charles '99 YZ250
From: XR650L_Dave on 4 Feb 2010 12:17 On Feb 4, 11:48 am, HardWorkingDog <har...(a)mush.man> wrote: > In article > <8c1ffd9e-8f44-48ca-bd0c-f9459abb2...(a)c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > > > XR650L_Dave <spamTHIS...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On earlier models the abs was locked out if you put the vehicle in > > > 4wd... I wish they didn't drop that idea. > > > I was playing with my abs the other day in the snow just to confirm > > > that it does infact work in 4wd (and it does). On the right hill, if > > > the abs engages... you may not stop... unless you can let up enough > > > to get it disengaged and still stop. It's clear to me that abs has > > > the potential to cause several wrecks every time it snows. It takes > > > much longer to stop... if it stops at all in some really slick low/ > > > medium speed situations (especially downhill). > > > Yes, hence my readiness to turn the key off your yank the Ebrake. > > > Some people pull the ABS fuse for winter, but to me it's a system with > > lots of benefit with one situation where it hurts, so I've decided on > > a backup plan for when the ABS is doing it's not-helpful thing. > > Hmmm. Put a switch in the fused line, mount it somewhere > inconspicuously safe...then you can control the ABS. > > -- > Charles > '99 YZ250 It's been done by some off-roaders. Some cars the ABS doesn't work again until you switch the engine off and on. I think there's a tiny chance that the existence of the switch could cause the insurance company to deny a claim, since they could claim the ABS was disabled before an accident, if that accident involved the inability to stop/swerve. Dave
From: dsc-ky on 4 Feb 2010 14:53 On Feb 4, 11:48 am, HardWorkingDog <har...(a)mush.man> wrote: > In article > <8c1ffd9e-8f44-48ca-bd0c-f9459abb2...(a)c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > XR650L_Dave <spamTHIS...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On earlier models the abs was locked out if you put the vehicle in > > > 4wd... I wish they didn't drop that idea. > > > I was playing with my abs the other day in the snow just to confirm > > > that it does infact work in 4wd (and it does). On the right hill, if > > > the abs engages... you may not stop... unless you can let up enough > > > to get it disengaged and still stop. It's clear to me that abs has > > > the potential to cause several wrecks every time it snows. It takes > > > much longer to stop... if it stops at all in some really slick low/ > > > medium speed situations (especially downhill). > > > Yes, hence my readiness to turn the key off your yank the Ebrake. > > > Some people pull the ABS fuse for winter, but to me it's a system with > > lots of benefit with one situation where it hurts, so I've decided on > > a backup plan for when the ABS is doing it's not-helpful thing. > > Hmmm. Put a switch in the fused line, mount it somewhere > inconspicuously safe...then you can control the ABS. Wire it up to the 4wd switch... :) dsc
From: JayC on 4 Feb 2010 15:41 > It's clear to me that abs has > the potential to cause several wrecks every time it snows. It takes > much longer to stop... if it stops at all in some really slick low/ > medium speed situations (especially downhill). Yup - been there, done that - ABS makes stopping all but impossible on ice. I hit my brakes in an icy parking lot at a ski area two years ago. Fully locked up would've stopped the truck in 100 feet. Instead, my Tundra ABSed itself 1000 feet across the parking lot, through a stop sign, across a street, down an embankment, across a stream, and into a group of trees. I might've slowed down 5MPH the entire time. The kids thought it was hilarious. Took a backhoe to get me out, and I still have the crunched front end. JayC
From: dsc-ky on 4 Feb 2010 15:49
On Feb 4, 3:41 pm, JayC <j...(a)sysmatrix.net> wrote: > > It's clear to me that abs has > > the potential to cause several wrecks every time it snows. It takes > > much longer to stop... if it stops at all in some really slick low/ > > medium speed situations (especially downhill). > > Yup - been there, done that - ABS makes stopping all but impossible on > ice. I hit my brakes in an icy parking lot at a ski area two years > ago. Fully locked up would've stopped the truck in 100 feet. > Instead, my Tundra ABSed itself 1000 feet across the parking lot, > through a stop sign, across a street, down an embankment, across a > stream, and into a group of trees. I might've slowed down 5MPH the > entire time. The kids thought it was hilarious. Took a backhoe to > get me out, and I still have the crunched front end. > > JayC I'd like to see the youtube of that... :) |