From: Dean H on 3 Feb 2010 11:42 I'm afraid I may be having too much fun watching this Toyota debacle unfold. I have always thought that fly by wire systems were a sketchy proposition. Did they sub it out to Lucas? Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike? I guess it wouldn't be optional on an electric bike. Seth flew by wire.
From: Tiago on 3 Feb 2010 11:54 On Feb 3, 1:42 pm, Dean H <dfhy...(a)optonline.net> wrote: > I'm afraid I may be having too much fun watching this Toyota debacle > unfold. I have always thought that fly by wire systems were a sketchy > proposition. Did they sub it out to Lucas? I don't think fbw are inherently bad. Ask any Airbus pilot. Problem is when people start complaining that cars cost too much and factory instead of using a part that costs 10 cents they start using one that costs 6 cents and is of less quality. btw, I drive a toyota... older model with cable throttle, stick shift and no cruise control. > Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike? > I guess it wouldn't be optional on an electric bike. fbw on a bike adds weight... ymmv... > Seth flew by wire. he mastered that art of flying on two wheels. He only had to perfect his landings! -- T
From: HardWorkingDog on 3 Feb 2010 11:58 In article <e7be78ae-a067-4aa8-927e-028aa5561d41(a)j31g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, Dean H <dfhyman(a)optonline.net> wrote: > Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike? Many recent sport bikes are done exactly that way. I think the R1 was the first, 2 or 3 years ago. So, my answer is if that meant I had an R1, yes. -- Charles '99 YZ250
From: I am Tosk on 3 Feb 2010 12:11 In article <e7be78ae-a067-4aa8-927e-028aa5561d41 @j31g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, dfhyman(a)optonline.net says... > > I'm afraid I may be having too much fun watching this Toyota debacle > unfold. I have always thought that fly by wire systems were a sketchy > proposition. Did they sub it out to Lucas? > > Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike? > I guess it wouldn't be optional on an electric bike. > > Seth flew by wire. Did you hear the recently released 911 call from the father of a family of 4 as their car hit the end of the freeway at 120 mph? It was chilling hearing the pleas' for help and the final screams of his family as they hit the barrier and went over the cliff. I heard it the other day and still shake when I think of it.. Scotty RMR..
From: XR650L_Dave on 3 Feb 2010 12:12
On Feb 3, 11:58 am, HardWorkingDog <har...(a)mush.man> wrote: > In article > <e7be78ae-a067-4aa8-927e-028aa5561...(a)j31g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > Dean H <dfhy...(a)optonline.net> wrote: > > > Would you want a fly by wire throttle on your bike? > > Many recent sport bikes are done exactly that way. I think the R1 was > the first, 2 or 3 years ago. > > So, my answer is if that meant I had an R1, yes. > > -- > Charles > '99 YZ250 On a sportbike I'd like to have a real throttle as butterflies in the throat, then any traction-control or smoothing etc could be done by a computer driven slide or butterflies. I'd give up the tiny bit extra power for the confidence that closing the throttle is under my direct control. I was wondering why it was tough for me to drive my wife's forester ('05) smoothly- then found out it has throttle-by-wire. Dave |