From: CrazyCam on 12 Aug 2010 17:56
George W Frost wrote:
> "CrazyCam" <CrazyCam(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> I expected a current model Euro bike to happily use E10, I know my Street
>> Triple Triumph does.
> Not going to chance it with the Trophy
> it doesn't like anything but 98
Fair enough, George.
But, when Mr.Triumph tells me, in the owner's handbook, that I can use
91 octane fuel, and also E10, I don't feel the need to argue.
BTW, as far as I know, for most of the rest of the Triumph range,
Mr.Triumph suggests minimum of 95 octane.
From: Andrew McKenna on 12 Aug 2010 20:04
> On 12/08/2010 9:54 PM, G-S wrote:
>> On 12/08/10 9:39 PM, Nev.. wrote:
>>> On 12/08/2010 10:41 AM, Andrew McKenna wrote:
>>>> All of the Japanese manufacturers say their bikes can't run on E10.
>>> All the evidence I have seen, (ie owners manuals on every Japanese bike
>>> I have owned in the past 10 years), is that the Japanese manufactures
>>> say their bikes CAN run on E10.
>>> '08 DL1000K8
>> Kawasaki Australia strongly recommend not using it and the FCAI have
>> this list.
> Honda CBR1100XX owner manual Page 28 "Do not use petrol that contains
> more than 10% ethanol".
> Kawasaki ZX12R owners manual Page 39 "Never use "gasohol" with more than
> 10% ethanol".
> Suzuki DL1000 owners manual Page 3-2 "Blends of Gasoline/Ethanol may be
> used as long as the percentage of ethanol does not exceed 10%".
> My anecdotal evidence of specific statements from the manufacturers
> beats your webpage with non-specific sweeping generalisations... and
> that was a 100% hit rate on just the 3 bikes I checked.
> '08 DL1000K8
Kawasaki Z750 2008 Owner's Manual Page 43: 'Your Kawasaki engine is
designed to use only unleaded gasoline with a minimum octane rating of
RON 91.' Doesn't mention ethanol at all.
The Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries solicited advice from the
major vehicle manufacturers selling in Australia as to the suitability
of E5 and E10 fuel for their products. All of the Japanese motorcycle
manufacturers said that E10 was unsuitable, as was E5. The FCAI
dutifully reported the results in the link G-S posted, which has a
publication date of 1 June 2006.
This document from Kawasaki:
says: 'WARNING: Kawasaki strongly advises that you do not use unleaded
fuel blended with any ethanol content in Kawasaki engines.'
Suzuki has this to say:
' Even though newer Suzukis are engineered to reasonably tolerate use of
ethanol blended fuels as may be outlined in the Owner�s Manual, because
it may potentially impact the proper performance of your motorcycle,
Suzuki Australia does not recommend its use. '
I think my up-to-date advice from the manufacturer's mouth beats your
out-of-date User's Manual hollow.
From: Jordan on 12 Aug 2010 20:40
Anybody know why any machine can or cannot use ethanol blended fuel?
From: Andrew McKenna on 12 Aug 2010 21:38
> Anybody know why any machine can or cannot use ethanol blended fuel?
As G-S has already posted:
and scroll down to the bottom.
From: F Murtz on 12 Aug 2010 23:55
Andrew McKenna wrote:
> Jordan wrote:
>> Anybody know why any machine can or cannot use ethanol blended fuel?
> As G-S has already posted:
> and scroll down to the bottom.
And how does the alcohol affect some plastic tanks?