From: Jim on
Alex Ferrier wrote:
> Vass wrote:
>> may favourite of my HDR''s to date
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/canon-eos/3033008862/sizes/l/
>
> That looks a bit garish to my untrained eyes.

I guess the question is whether that describes the subject accurately!
From: Veggie Dave on
Champ <neal(a)champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>I'm old fashioned enough to believe that most of the creativity should
>be about being at the right place at the right time, and seeing and
>framing the picture, not in the dark room/at the PC.

Until fairly recently a big part of a photographer's skill was how he
printed his own photographs. Darkroom skills were a very big part of the
job.

Using your criteria above, you're saying people like Ansel Adams weren't
the photography geniuses they actually were.

However, I am of the opinion there is a big difference between a good
photographer and a good image technician.

--
Veggie Dave
http://www.iq18films.co.uk

"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim
that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine
From: Jim on
Veggie Dave wrote:
> Champ <neal(a)champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>>I'm old fashioned enough to believe that most of the creativity should
>>be about being at the right place at the right time, and seeing and
>>framing the picture, not in the dark room/at the PC.
>
> Until fairly recently a big part of a photographer's skill was how he
> printed his own photographs. Darkroom skills were a very big part of the
> job.
>
> Using your criteria above, you're saying people like Ansel Adams weren't
> the photography geniuses they actually were.

Photography wouldn't be the first discipline to succumb to the It's All
Been Done effect - the first person to climb a mountain or sail around
the world is always going to be more notable than the thousandth.
From: Champ on
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:38:53 +0100, Veggie Dave
<Veggie~Dave(a)127.0.0.1> wrote:

>Champ <neal(a)champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece:
>>I'm old fashioned enough to believe that most of the creativity should
>>be about being at the right place at the right time, and seeing and
>>framing the picture, not in the dark room/at the PC.

>Until fairly recently a big part of a photographer's skill was how he
>printed his own photographs. Darkroom skills were a very big part of the
>job.

Agreed.

>Using your criteria above, you're saying people like Ansel Adams weren't
>the photography geniuses they actually were.

No, I used the word 'most' deliberately.

>However, I am of the opinion there is a big difference between a good
>photographer and a good image technician.

I guess that was the point I was trying to make.
--
Champ

ZX10R (road), ZX10R (race; breaking), GPz750 turbo (classic) Hayabusa (touring)
To email me, neal at my domain should work.
From: CT on
Jim wrote:

> Well, it's just a set of pixels - why do you care whether there has
> been post-processing? Even the processes involved in getting the data
> off the CCD and turning it into a JPEG involve some manipulation of
> the image.

I don't care whether there has been post-processing or not. However,
I, as an untrained observer, would like to know whether "a photo" is a
single frame or multiple frames.

To go back to the original subject, I *knew* there was something "not
quite right" with the photos in the gallery, but I didn't know what. I
would have liked to have known.

> You're like the people who want magazines to put warnings on the
> pictures where the models have been touched up.

<mode=Roy Walker>
Is not right.
</mode>

--
Chris