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From: Jim on 20 Oct 2009 06:23 Alex Ferrier wrote: > Vass wrote: >> may favourite of my HDR''s to date >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/canon-eos/3033008862/sizes/l/ > > That looks a bit garish to my untrained eyes. I guess the question is whether that describes the subject accurately!
From: Veggie Dave on 20 Oct 2009 06:38 Champ <neal(a)champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece: >I'm old fashioned enough to believe that most of the creativity should >be about being at the right place at the right time, and seeing and >framing the picture, not in the dark room/at the PC. Until fairly recently a big part of a photographer's skill was how he printed his own photographs. Darkroom skills were a very big part of the job. Using your criteria above, you're saying people like Ansel Adams weren't the photography geniuses they actually were. However, I am of the opinion there is a big difference between a good photographer and a good image technician. -- Veggie Dave http://www.iq18films.co.uk "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine
From: Jim on 20 Oct 2009 06:50 Veggie Dave wrote: > Champ <neal(a)champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece: >>I'm old fashioned enough to believe that most of the creativity should >>be about being at the right place at the right time, and seeing and >>framing the picture, not in the dark room/at the PC. > > Until fairly recently a big part of a photographer's skill was how he > printed his own photographs. Darkroom skills were a very big part of the > job. > > Using your criteria above, you're saying people like Ansel Adams weren't > the photography geniuses they actually were. Photography wouldn't be the first discipline to succumb to the It's All Been Done effect - the first person to climb a mountain or sail around the world is always going to be more notable than the thousandth.
From: Champ on 20 Oct 2009 06:50 On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:38:53 +0100, Veggie Dave <Veggie~Dave(a)127.0.0.1> wrote: >Champ <neal(a)champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece: >>I'm old fashioned enough to believe that most of the creativity should >>be about being at the right place at the right time, and seeing and >>framing the picture, not in the dark room/at the PC. >Until fairly recently a big part of a photographer's skill was how he >printed his own photographs. Darkroom skills were a very big part of the >job. Agreed. >Using your criteria above, you're saying people like Ansel Adams weren't >the photography geniuses they actually were. No, I used the word 'most' deliberately. >However, I am of the opinion there is a big difference between a good >photographer and a good image technician. I guess that was the point I was trying to make. -- Champ ZX10R (road), ZX10R (race; breaking), GPz750 turbo (classic) Hayabusa (touring) To email me, neal at my domain should work.
From: CT on 20 Oct 2009 06:50
Jim wrote: > Well, it's just a set of pixels - why do you care whether there has > been post-processing? Even the processes involved in getting the data > off the CCD and turning it into a JPEG involve some manipulation of > the image. I don't care whether there has been post-processing or not. However, I, as an untrained observer, would like to know whether "a photo" is a single frame or multiple frames. To go back to the original subject, I *knew* there was something "not quite right" with the photos in the gallery, but I didn't know what. I would have liked to have known. > You're like the people who want magazines to put warnings on the > pictures where the models have been touched up. <mode=Roy Walker> Is not right. </mode> -- Chris |