From: Andrew on


"tomorrow(a)erols.com" <tomorrowaterolsdotcom(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 8, 9:41 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 8, 6:17 am, CindiK <cindi.k...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > On Aug 8, 1:51 am, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > > On Aug 7, 9:32 pm, RosemontCrest <rosemontcr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> > > > You're quick. Actually, I meant to write that darker colors appear
>> > > > smaller than lighter colors, so I'm not sure what you mean by black
>> > > > being more slimming.
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>> > > He's making fun of her attitude that a helmet should primarily be a
>> > > fashion statement rather that something that protects your bean.
>>
>> > My pastor is taking the MSF RSS class this weekend. Last weekend he
>> > asked me where to buy a helmet.
>>
>> > He said
>> > "I'm going to get a half-helmet because I think it will go better with
>> > my leather jacket tattoo Harley look I want to cultivate"
>>
>> > .kajfbg;uidv
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>> might as well go shopping for a new pastor and a new church.
>
> Yep, cause anyone who wears a half-helmet on a motorcycle is going to
> be killed as a result.

You might get away with wearing a 1/2 helmet, you have reasonable skills. I
would put you in the top 1% of all riders with regards to skills.
I might be in the top 5%-10% of riders regarding skills.

Should a newbie or someone who is unsure of their skills wear a 1/2 helmet?
IMO, no. So not everyone who wears a 1/2 helmet is going to be killed, but
I would say that people who have serious wrecks in 1/2 helmets have more
significant head/facial injuries than people who wear full face helmets.
Now I am sure there is no study out there to show this, but reasonable sense
should hold that the instances of injury are higher when the head is not
fully protected. Not to mention issues with bugs and gravel.


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Andrew
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From: tomorrow on
On Aug 8, 6:18 pm, "Andrew" <yo...(a)no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote:
> "tomor...(a)erols.com" <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > On Aug 8, 9:41 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 8, 6:17 am, CindiK <cindi.k...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > On Aug 8, 1:51 am, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > > On Aug 7, 9:32 pm, RosemontCrest <rosemontcr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >> > > > You're quick. Actually, I meant to write that darker colors appear
> >> > > > smaller than lighter colors, so I'm not sure what you mean by black
> >> > > > being more slimming.
>
> >> > > He's making fun of her attitude that a helmet should primarily be a
> >> > > fashion statement rather that something that protects your bean.
>
> >> > My pastor is taking the MSF RSS class this weekend. Last weekend he
> >> > asked me where to buy a helmet.
>
> >> > He said
> >> > "I'm going to get a half-helmet because I think it will go better with
> >> > my leather jacket tattoo Harley look I want to cultivate"
>
> >> > .kajfbg;uidv
>
> >> might as well go shopping for a new pastor and a new church.
>
> > Yep, cause anyone who wears a half-helmet on a motorcycle is going to
> > be killed as a result.
>
> You might get away with wearing a 1/2 helmet, you have reasonable skills.  I
> would put you in the top 1% of all riders with regards to skills.
> I might be in the top 5%-10% of riders regarding skills.
>
> Should a newbie or someone who is unsure of their skills wear a 1/2 helmet?
> IMO, no.  So not everyone who wears a 1/2 helmet is going to be killed, but
> I would say that people who have serious wrecks in 1/2 helmets have more
> significant head/facial injuries than people who wear full face helmets.
> Now I am sure there is no study out there to show this, but reasonable sense
> should hold that the instances of injury are higher when the head is not
> fully protected.  Not to mention issues with bugs and gravel.

I agree that a 3/4 helmet gives better protection than a 1/2 helmet.
I agree that a full face helmet provides better protection than a 3/4
helmet, I think a Roadcrafter Aerostich full suit with armor provides
better protection than jeans and a t-shirt. Gloves provide better
protection than the skin on your hands. Boots better protectin than
sneakers.

I believe that riders should get rider education, and I think that
education should, of course, provide accurate information about the
value of proper protective gear. I have no problem with people
responding to a question about a half helmet by either asking if the
rider has considered a helmet with more complete coverage, or if the
rider has ever heard that other helmets can provide better protection.

I did, after all, spend 14 years of weekends educating about 4,500 to
5,000 riders about just such things.

What I object to is the characterization that someone who chooses
something less than the fullest coverage helmet, the most armored full
riding suit, the most articulated boots, and the best carbon-fiber
reinforced motorcycle roadracing gloves (and what next, riding without
one of those new personal airbag deployment devices?) as being
stupid, or reckless, or bound to die (which are some of the precise
descriptions being bandied about in this thread, even if not by you)
when no one has the slightest idea whether any of those
characterizations is true.

That's all.
From: Twibil on
On Aug 8, 12:27 pm, "tomor...(a)erols.com"
<tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hell, we don't even know that the original poster *has* a pretty face
> to keep intact.  She could be HIDEOUS.

You, Sirrah, are no gentleman!

From: tomorrow on
On Aug 8, 8:28 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 8, 12:27 pm, "tomor...(a)erols.com"
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> <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > Hell, we don't even know that the original poster *has* a pretty face
> > to keep intact.  She could be HIDEOUS.
>
> You, Sirrah, are no gentleman!

Yeah, that was way out of line. Still, this is reeky, so I can't very
well apologize!
From: S'mee on
On Aug 8, 7:23 pm, "tomor...(a)erols.com"
<tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 8, 8:28 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 8, 12:27 pm, "tomor...(a)erols.com"
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> > <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > Hell, we don't even know that the original poster *has* a pretty face
> > > to keep intact.  She could be HIDEOUS.
>
> > You, Sirrah, are no gentleman!
>
> Yeah, that was way out of line.  Still, this is reeky, so I can't very
> well apologize!

Why would you? It was just speculation anyway...for all any of us know
she could look like Sophia Loren (in her cougar prime). <shrug> I
wouldn't worry about it.