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From: Yeebok on 16 Feb 2007 02:48 Iain Chalmers wrote: > In article <45d55c19$1(a)news.comindico.com.au>, > Yeebok <yeebok(a)gmail.com> wrote: > big (and no, "current mood" is not an alternator efficiency joke ;-) ) > Priceless :)
From: Hammo on 16 Feb 2007 03:00 On 16/2/07 1:09 PM, in article 45d512cc$1(a)news.bekkers.com.au, "Theo Bekkers" <tbekkers(a)bekkers.com.au> wrote: > Hammo wrote: >> "Theo Bekkers" wrote: > >>> By that definition nothing floats Nev. [1] Pretty much everthing has >>> to displace some water to stay on the surface. > >> [1] surface tension, be gone..... > > Hence the qualifier. I would wager that even a mosquito standing on the > surface tension of a pond is displacing some water even though no part of > the mosquito is below the surface. I find frogs pretty, you can keep the mozzies... Hammo
From: Hammo on 16 Feb 2007 03:06 On 16/2/07 1:18 PM, in article bigiain-8ED237.13182616022007(a)nasal.pacific.net.au, "Iain Chalmers" <bigiain(a)mightymedia.com.au> wrote: > In article <C1FA8AC5.26F2B%hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au>, > Hammo <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: > >> On 15/2/07 7:41 PM, in article >> bigiain-976EC2.19410915022007(a)nasal.pacific.net.au, "Iain Chalmers" >> <bigiain(a)mightymedia.com.au> wrote: >> >>> In article <AHUAh.1426$4c6.428(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au>, >>> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Peter Cremasco" <FirstName.LastName(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message >>>> news:jk38t29gcr43dcheiaq60ver5gb1ad73am(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:18:38 GMT, "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> It also expands when cooled below zero! >>>>>> [cue Twilight-Zone music] >>>>> >>>>> Below 4 degrees C, I think. >>>>> --- >>>> You're right; but I think it's negative 4. >>> >>> Nope, plus 4, thats why ice floats... >> >> Eh? Flotation is based on temperature? >> >> That makes no sense. > > You are, of course, completely right Hammo, as usual. The expansion of > water as it drops below 4 degrees has absolutely nothing to do with why > ice floats, I must have forgotten to factor in the efficiency of the > cooling system, or the torque on the refrigerator compressor or some > other completely irrelevant detail. > > Lets see: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=why+ice+floats > > Not a single one of the returns there says anything about temperature > having anything to do with why ice floats, does it? So your post and I quote.. BigIain: " Nope, plus 4, thats why ice floats..." Tell me what that was supposed to mean. Hammo : I'm, pretty sure that what I posted was "Eh? Flotation is based on temperature? "That makes no sense". I'm looking forward how you managed to interpret that to mean that it is, especially after you pointed out that a temp of "plus 4" was why ice floats. Hammo
From: Iain Chalmers on 16 Feb 2007 03:26 In article <C1FBB14F.1257A%hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au>, Hammo <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: > On 16/2/07 1:18 PM, in article > bigiain-8ED237.13182616022007(a)nasal.pacific.net.au, "Iain Chalmers" > <bigiain(a)mightymedia.com.au> wrote: > > > In article <C1FA8AC5.26F2B%hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au>, > > Hammo <hbaj2006(a)aapt.net.au> wrote: > > > >> On 15/2/07 7:41 PM, in article > >> bigiain-976EC2.19410915022007(a)nasal.pacific.net.au, "Iain Chalmers" > >> <bigiain(a)mightymedia.com.au> wrote: > >> > >>> In article <AHUAh.1426$4c6.428(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au>, > >>> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> "Peter Cremasco" <FirstName.LastName(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:jk38t29gcr43dcheiaq60ver5gb1ad73am(a)4ax.com... > >>>>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 13:18:38 GMT, "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> It also expands when cooled below zero! > >>>>>> [cue Twilight-Zone music] > >>>>> > >>>>> Below 4 degrees C, I think. > >>>>> --- > >>>> You're right; but I think it's negative 4. > >>> > >>> Nope, plus 4, thats why ice floats... > >> > >> Eh? Flotation is based on temperature? > >> > >> That makes no sense. > > > > You are, of course, completely right Hammo, as usual. The expansion of > > water as it drops below 4 degrees has absolutely nothing to do with why > > ice floats, I must have forgotten to factor in the efficiency of the > > cooling system, or the torque on the refrigerator compressor or some > > other completely irrelevant detail. > > > > Lets see: > > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=why+ice+floats > > > > Not a single one of the returns there says anything about temperature > > having anything to do with why ice floats, does it? > > So your post and I quote.. > > BigIain: " Nope, plus 4, thats why ice floats..." > > Tell me what that was supposed to mean. > > Hammo : I'm, pretty sure that what I posted was "Eh? Flotation is based on > temperature? "That makes no sense". > > I'm looking forward how you managed to interpret that to mean that it is, > especially after you pointed out that a temp of "plus 4" was why ice floats. > I know you're a very busy guy Hamish, but it's all in the context, all of which you've quoted up there. Try and follow along: Clem said "It also expands when cooled below zero!", then Peter said "Below 4 degrees C, I think.", then Clem said "You're right; but I think it's negative 4.", then I said "Nope, plus 4, thats why ice floats..." - pointing out that if you had to cool water down below -4 degrees until it started expanding, ice _wouldn't_ float. If you expect every sentence posted to usenet to be complete in itself and completely context insensitive, it doesn't surprise me too much that you've been showing signs of insanity ;-) big (are you gonna stalk me round every aus.moto thread since I gave up on you in the "magic headlights running on no energy" thread? ;-) ) -- "Everything you love, everything meaningful with depth and history, all passionate authentic experiences will be appropriated, mishandled, watered down, cheapened, repackaged, marketed and sold to the people you hate." Mr Jalopy quoting Hooptyrides (on jalopyjunktown.com)
From: Toosmoky on 16 Feb 2007 03:37
Iain Chalmers wrote: > Perhaps only blimps and air-ships actually "float" in Nev-land since > they manage to keep 100% of their mass out of the water? :-) As ships displace water, so airships displace air... -- Toosmoky Work to ride, Ride to Work... http://toosmoky.d2.net.au |