From: Theo Bekkers on
Hammo wrote:
> "Theo Bekkers" wrote:

>> I was incredulous at the announcement. I didn't realise he was that
>> stupid. Do you think someone will tell him that, eg, it is illegal
>> to use flouro lighting over rotating machinery.

> I don't know if all the "environments" have been determined as to
> where the incandescent will be replaced. There are already a number
> of places where they won't need to be phased out..

Your fridge, microwave, oven, sewing machine lamps? I have a lathe and two
3hp sawbenches in my shed lit by sodium-vapour lamps. I also have an RC
incandescent attached to my bandsaw. Flouros don't survive that kind of
environment. What happens when millions of flouro globes get to landfill?

> Umm, looking at what has become the benchmark
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPCC_list_of_greenhouse_gases
> There is no mention of petrol fumes being a green house gas. So, I
> have to agree to disagree.

Wikipedia is the benchmark now? <boggle>

> PS did you get the pictures? I sent them via theo@.... Showing the
> lack of uniformity around a short distance from our place with road
> side furnishings.

Got the pictures, didn't get your point. Plastic roadside edge markers are
surely preferably to solid timber or steel ones. I agree putting up a sign
on the edge of the road saying there are trees near the side of the road is
a little superfluous. Still, it might have done Brocky some good.

Nice picture of your foot.

Theo


From: Knobdoodle on

"Hamish Alker-Jones" <hbalkerjones(a)aapt.net.au> wrote:
> "Theo Bekkers" <tbekkers(a)bekkers.com.au> wrote:
>> But not zero, which was the original contention.
>
> We will have to agree to disagree. It was the waste of fuel bit I recall.
>
Ha hah; It was you trying all sorts of silly diversions to avoid admitting
you were wrong as far as I could discern from your posts Hammo.
Glad to see THAT hasn't changed at least!
--
Clem


From: Knobdoodle on

"Hamish Alker-Jones" <hbalkerjones(a)aapt.net.au> wrote:
> Sure, if you pay the people that have purchased it. An amount that would
> easily exceed that is evaporation. It would be interesting to see what
> effect on volume vs temp Opal has.
>
Only interesting to someone eagre to divert people away from what's being
discussed of course.....
--
Clem
(Congratulations on diverting Dale with that hilarious
laminar-flow-affects-how-much-air-an-airship-displaces effort by the way!)


From: Dale Porter on
"Theo Bekkers" <tbekkers(a)bekkers.com.au> wrote in message news:45de462b$1(a)news.bekkers.com.au...
> Hamish Alker-Jones wrote:
>> Theo Bekkers wrote:
>
>>> When John Howard insists we change the headlight globes to fluoros
>>> how much power will they use?
>
>> That was in interesting turn up for the books. I'm not sure if they
>> will be included, unless LEDs become mandated. Seeing as they are in
>> use for headlights now, perhaps....
>
> I was incredulous at the announcement. I didn't realise he was that stupid. Do you think someone will tell him that, eg, it is
> illegal to use flouro lighting over rotating machinery.
>

I'm stretching my memory a bit, but I was told by someone years ago that a single fluro tube over rotating machinery was a hazard,
but a double tube setup was alot safer. Something to do with the light source coming from 2 slightly different directions and
assisting depth perception.

NFI if that has any element of truth to it, but I can't say I've ever noticed any problems myself with my polishing buffs in my
fluro-lit garage (double baton, one "cool white" tube, one "daylight" tube - same setup over my jewellery workbench).

--
Dale Porter
GPX250 -> CBR600 -> VTR1000 + VT250F-J