From: Bruce Jensen on
On Mar 4, 1:05 pm, krusty kritter <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 10:41 am, climber <coledenk...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The breeding rate of "Mestizo Parasitois Rodenta" will quickly destroy
> > the environment. There are several nice camping/picnic areas near
> > here that are destroyed each weekend by the filthy hispanic rodents.
> > We go with trash bags Monday to pickup filthy diapers, tampons, and
> > bottles, mostly Corona beer. Death to the scum invaders and their
> > employers and advocates.
>
> Local Whites have been complaining about what Mexicans do when it
> snows and they take their whole monstrous tribe to the Sierra Nevada
> or the Tehachapi range to "play" in the snow.
>
> The snowplay areas wind up getting trashed and the Mexicans also feel
> that they must "mark" their territory with spray cans, even if that
> "territory" is just the seat of a stinking porta-potty.
>
> Rants and Raves message boards all over California are filled with
> angry messages about how Mexicans are trashing the state.
>
> The local Mexican population is about 60% in this little town and
> there the Mexican population of the county is 50%.
>
> I'm getting out of here as soon as I find a better place.
>
> I'm doing a survey, county by county, to find the place with the
> smallest percentage of Mexican population here in California, since I
> don't want to move back to Vermont or New Hampshire and put up with
> snow in the winter.
>
> One interesting fact of note:
>
> When you read the census demographics for just about any state other
> than the American southwest, you'll find that Germans are the proudest
> people in the USA, followed by the Irish, then the English when it
> comes to telling the government where their ancestors came from.
>
> Rednecks will never say that they are Scots-Irish, they will always
> say that they are just "Americans."

I am not justifying the described behavior of the Hispanic community
at all - it is disgusting - but except for the scale of the damage,
how is it different than what wealthy European stock have done to the
land after strip and pit mining, adit mining, timber clearcutting,
overgrazing, urban sprawling, polluting, radiating and dustbowling
various thousands of square miles to death?

No group of humans is immune to the urge to ruin what it touches for
its own selfish purpose and then blithely walk away. It takes a
matured and educated society to self-police. Everyone needs to be
taught to be responsible. When we "Europeans" learn and stop living
in glass houses, then we can throw stones.

Bruce Jensen
From: Long Ranger on


--
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go
mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one
--Charles Mackay

"Bruce Jensen" <bpnjensen(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8b5bfe9e-9eec-443d-805d-7501c7c2f80f(a)k2g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 4, 1:05 pm, krusty kritter <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 10:41 am, climber <coledenk...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The breeding rate of "Mestizo Parasitois Rodenta" will quickly destroy
> > the environment. There are several nice camping/picnic areas near
> > here that are destroyed each weekend by the filthy hispanic rodents.
> > We go with trash bags Monday to pickup filthy diapers, tampons, and
> > bottles, mostly Corona beer. Death to the scum invaders and their
> > employers and advocates.
>
> Local Whites have been complaining about what Mexicans do when it
> snows and they take their whole monstrous tribe to the Sierra Nevada
> or the Tehachapi range to "play" in the snow.
>
> The snowplay areas wind up getting trashed and the Mexicans also feel
> that they must "mark" their territory with spray cans, even if that
> "territory" is just the seat of a stinking porta-potty.
>
> Rants and Raves message boards all over California are filled with
> angry messages about how Mexicans are trashing the state.
>
> The local Mexican population is about 60% in this little town and
> there the Mexican population of the county is 50%.
>
> I'm getting out of here as soon as I find a better place.
>
> I'm doing a survey, county by county, to find the place with the
> smallest percentage of Mexican population here in California, since I
> don't want to move back to Vermont or New Hampshire and put up with
> snow in the winter.
>
> One interesting fact of note:
>
> When you read the census demographics for just about any state other
> than the American southwest, you'll find that Germans are the proudest
> people in the USA, followed by the Irish, then the English when it
> comes to telling the government where their ancestors came from.
>
> Rednecks will never say that they are Scots-Irish, they will always
> say that they are just "Americans."

I am not justifying the described behavior of the Hispanic community
at all - it is disgusting - but except for the scale of the damage,
how is it different than what wealthy European stock have done to the
land after strip and pit mining, adit mining, timber clearcutting,
overgrazing, urban sprawling, polluting, radiating and dustbowling
various thousands of square miles to death?

No group of humans is immune to the urge to ruin what it touches for
its own selfish purpose and then blithely walk away. It takes a
matured and educated society to self-police. Everyone needs to be
taught to be responsible. When we "Europeans" learn and stop living
in glass houses, then we can throw stones.

Bruce Jensen

Comparing apples to oranges only leads to confusion, Bruce. If you compare
the "cleanliness" of any major American city (except, perhaps, East L.A.) to
any major Mexican city, there really is no comparison. They throw their
shitty toilet paper in a box, on the floor, for chrissakes! What these
invaders don't seem to comprende is that the things they are all enjoying
here don't spring out of special American dirt. This is white culture, and
if they were to trade all of Mexico for all of America, white folks would
have Mexico looking like America does now inside of 20 years. Conversely,
Mexicans would have this country looking like a bunch of Mexican villages in
about 2 years. There is plenty of evidence to back this up. Just look at the
parts of any major city in America they dominate. In case you never noticed,
it was white culture that started the trend about 40 years ago to have less
children (which, in case it doesn't dawn on you, taxes the precious earth
far less!) and to begin taking a more careful look at the "environment".
Every group on earth is guilty of trashing the earth to some extent, but it
was white culture that took stock of it all and started to address things.
It is also white (and some Asian) culture that polices it's trash and keeps
up it's parks and public areas. Unfortunately, most of us are so ignorant
of what actually constitutes damage to our planet, that the attention for it
all is spread thinly over what is mostly bullshit, and the areas of genuine
concern go lacking. You make an excellent point about a "mature, and
educated society", but compared to Mexico, there is not even a hint of a
contest there.


From: S'mee on
On Mar 5, 10:48 am, Bruce Jensen <bpnjen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Scapegoating and broadbrushing one or another group does no good, does
> not solve problems, does not further your cause.


Stop talking sense! It wont get through that fossilized nazi skull of
his.
From: Bruce Jensen on
On Mar 5, 9:52 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 5, 10:48 am, Bruce Jensen <bpnjen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Scapegoating and broadbrushing one or another group does no good, does
> > not solve problems, does not further your cause.
>
> Stop talking sense! It wont get through that fossilized nazi skull of
> his.

:-) Some people go through blaming the nearest convenient weak link,
picking and choosing from history what fits their world view and
ignoring the rest. It's not peculiar to any one political persuasion,
interest group or race - almost anyone can be, and sometimes is,
guilty of this error. I know I have been. I just do my best to be as
objective as possible.

Bruce
From: krusty kritter on
On Mar 5, 9:48 am, Bruce Jensen <bpnjen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Moreover, I know plenty of trashy white people who have wrecked their
> apartments and screwed up their yards and messed up their
> neighborhoods -

Poor White people in America are poor because they were thrown out of
the British Isles because they were poor, or they left Germany to
avoid being drafted into the army to fight during the Napoleonic Wars
or after the 1848 Revolution.

Being drafted into the army was a death sentence for German youth, and
they would say their final goodbyes to their families before they
joined their units.

German soldiers knew they weren't coming home.

> It happens here in California

You can't tell *me* anything about poor Whites.

The poor White people in California are mostly descendants of people
who were exiled from the British Isles for being poor, or for being in
the way of the industrial revolution. The landlords who evicted them
from their cottages were the descendants of Norman/French nobility
who'd been awarded the lands because of loyalty to some duke or count
who'd kissed the king's foot in homage.

I'm descended directly from the Englishman who was the first elected
official of the Massachusetts Bay colony. Besides obtaining permission
from the Indians to establish the MBC, he surveyed the boundary
between the MBC and the Plymouth Colony. He took the oath of loyalty
to the MBC as a Free Man about 1631.

His 4 great grandson somehow got connected with an exile from the
Scottish highlands in Pennsylvania, where the highlanders were sent to
form a buffer between the established English colonists. Other Scots
emigrated to the Carolinas, where they thought they'd be accepted
because of their support of
king Charles, but they were told they could eat dirt or starve.

The exiled highlander in Pennsylvania was my 3 great grandfather and
my line of descent is a cross between exiled Scots and rich Yankees.

The Scots were thought to be too uncouth for association with the
English, but that was no different from the way they were treated ever
since the Norman/French and their English allies invaded Scotland in
the 14th century under command of Edward Longshanks.

Everybody has seen "Braveheart." My exiled Scots highlander ancestor
was the cousin of both William Wallace, and Robert the Bruce, who was
made out to be a traitor in the movie.

After Scotland gained its "independence," there were still the wars of
religion and
the wars of dynastic succession amongst the various royal houses.

Another umpteen great grandsire was an exiled Scots Covenanter. The
Covenanters signed an oath in their own blood to support king Charles
and he agreed to support presbyterianism, but reneged upon the offer.

The Scots Covenanters were the original "red necks." They wore a piece
of red cloth around their necks to signify their loyalty to king and
covenant.

But thousands of Covenanters were murdered by the allies of the Church
of England. Sir Walter Scott wrote a book about the killings, it's
called "Old Mortality."

My red neck Covenanter ancestor emigrated to western Pennsylvania
too...

The Scots who were told to eat dirt or starve in the Carolinas moved
into the foothills of the Appalachians and finally across the Blue
Ridge into Kentucky and Tennessee, where they were trapped in a
cultural backwater for more than a century.

They supported themselves by making moonshine and raising hogs. But,
as the west opened up, the "red necks" moved into the new territories
and tried to homestead.

They always found the same situation: rich White people had gotten
there first, and looked down their noses at the newcomers.

John Steinbeck's Pulitzer prize-winning novel, "Grapes of Wrath," is
about what happened here in this county when the US government
deported the illegal alien Mexicans and the Western Growers
Association needed agricultural laborers to pick their crops but
didn't want to pay a living wage to the "red necks", whom they called
"fruit tramps."

and I'll be happy to
> take you on a behind-the-scenes tour of my squeaky clean historic
> white-bread Massachusetts hometown sometime and show you.  One
> unsanitary Yankee dump after another.

Hey, don't badmouth Massachusetts Yankees. My ancestors founded
Massachusetts, and, if you'll name a town, I can probably name an
ancestor that lived there in the 17th century.

> Scapegoating and broadbrushing one or another group does no good, does
> not solve problems, does not further your cause.  Saying ridiculous
> things like "California ought to round 'em up and deport them" when
> the State of California has no such legal authority is also not
> helpful.  

I agree, our immigration laws should be staunchly applied
> and illegal aliens should be removed; but this nation has plenty of
> other problems, spurred by many people of no particular descent, that
> make this one look like a piker, and these problems threaten to
> bankrupt us in numerous ways.

Watch what you say! "Piker" is what the poor red necks were called
when they
moved across the west looking for homestead land.

They could see Pikes peak from the flatlands of Kansas and knew they
were getting close to a place they thought they could settle down. My
great grandfather was a "piker" who settled his family in Colorado and
I still have lots of relatives there.

"Pikers" who arrived in California's central valley 100 years ago
tried to live like they'd lived in Appalachia, Kentucky and Tennessee.

The rich White lawyers and bankers who got to California first cheated
the "pikers" out of whatever homestead land they'd managed to acquire.

There were lots of red necks raising hogs in the oak forests along the
Kaweah river before the rich farmers cut the 400 square mile forest
down and drained the huge lake in the middle of the San Joaquin
valley.

If you've been watching Fox News, you've heard Sean Hannity ranting
and raving about the "dustbowl" conditions in "The Valley that Hope
Forgot."

It's a bunch of bullshit, the greedy rich White farmers drained the
lake and diverted all the water from the rivers coming down from the
Sierra Nevada and turned the valley into a Mexican-infested desert!

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