Idea for self-cancelling blinkers
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From: Knobdoodle on 5 Dec 2008 23:31 "BT Humble" <bt_humble(a)bigpond.com> wrote: > Clem's old XJ900 had the equivalent of an extra speedo cable running > from the front wheel, which went through a little mechanical doovy and > cancelled the indicators after 100m or so. You could also manually > cancel them, of course. > I think the contact is actually in the speedo (odometer) and it cancels after two pulses (so 101 to 200 meters). Yamaha debuted the system on the RD350 about 1974 but they must've really locked up the patents 'cause the others have never really stuck with it. Kwakkas used to have an awkwards electromechical system which actually slid the switch back to centre. -- Clem
From: Knobdoodle on 6 Dec 2008 00:08 "Kevin Gleeson" <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message news:jggjj4d4h9odjmuevk1on7oar7u6af8ppt(a)4ax.com... > , "Knobdoodle" > <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>Am I missing the joke or are you REALLY saying that a motorcycle's >>self-cancelling indicators work on handlebar movement?!!? > > I was trying to remember. My RZ250 in the early 80s had > self-cancelling I think. I'm sure I've ridden something with them. And > my unreliable memory tells me that they were actually cancelled a > certain distance after a small handlebar movement. At low speed you > will do a small amount of direct steer. I'm happy to be proved wrong > and there was some other system doing it, but that long ago it had to > be mechanical. But it worked fine. That bit I DO remember. > I reckon you're on the droogs Kev! Though you're not the first person who has assumed that motorcycle-indicators cancel the same as car ones I'd be very very surprised so find some that do and I'd be fookin' STUNNED if a Yamaha RZ250 ever did! -- Clem
From: CrazyCam on 6 Dec 2008 01:51 Kevin Gleeson wrote: > On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:27:24 GMT, "Knobdoodle" > <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> "jl" <not-here(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >>> My 1984 Kwaka VN750 had self cancelling blinkers - they obviously weren't >>> a selling point if your 2008 Kwaka doesn't have them... >>> >>> JL >>> turned off when you turned the bars btw >>> >> Am I missing the joke or are you REALLY saying that a motorcycle's >> self-cancelling indicators work on handlebar movement?!!? > > I was trying to remember. My RZ250 in the early 80s had > self-cancelling I think. I'm sure I've ridden something with them. And > my unreliable memory tells me that they were actually cancelled a > certain distance after a small handlebar movement. At low speed you > will do a small amount of direct steer. I'm happy to be proved wrong > and there was some other system doing it, but that long ago it had to > be mechanical. But it worked fine. That bit I DO remember. I'm fairly sure the RZ didn't have self canceling blinkers, but mid-80's they were a "fashion". Quite a few bikes had them, I particularly remember the Kwaka GT750, which canceled on the basis of distance traveled. I really didn't like the system, 'cos there were lots of times I wanted the blinker on for quite a while. :-( regards, CrazyCam
From: bikerbetty on 6 Dec 2008 02:21 "Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly(a)bigslong.com> wrote in message news:4939b48b$0$18671$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > > "Doctor Shifty" <dr.shifty(a)tpg.com.oz> wrote in message > news:gh8ibj$g5s$1(a)news.motzarella.org... >> I'm riding a lot in the city with this new bike. Mostly turns off the >> blinkers by auto-pilot, but not always. And having them running is a >> nuisance to following traffic. So I thought of a simple solution. Trouble >> is, perhaps there's something I haven't thought of. >> >> The push-in blinker canceller is just another wire being connected in the >> switch block. So another wire in parallel will do the trick. But where to >> control this cancelling wire? >> >> My idea is to have a micro-switch operate on a gear up-shift. This will >> turn the blinkers off as I change up out of the corner, but will allow >> them to stay on as I change down approaching a corner. >> >> It sounds as simple as possible. Can anyone see any circumstance where >> this won't work that I might have missed? >> >> Thanks >> Kim > > Perhaps fitting a prominent indicator LED somewhere in your direct line of > site might be an alternative ? > > Rheilly P It was one of the things that I considered a bit of a design flaw on the GS500 - the uncancelled blinker light simply wasn't visible in the periphery of my vision. On the GPX250 there was a big yellow flashing light that you just couldn't miss. On the SV it's slightly better than the GS was - but still not as noticeable as it was on the GPX. I always press the "cancel" switch as a matter of course (this bit is in reposnse to FOG's comment) - I never "forget" - but sometimes I obviously don't press it hard enough, coz the blinker doesn't cancel. I've tried to develop the habit of pressing the cancel a second time, a couple of seconds after the first time, just in case - but sometimes I DO forget the second press, depending on traffic/conditions etc betty
From: jl on 6 Dec 2008 06:44
Knobdoodle wrote: > "jl" <not-here(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >> My 1984 Kwaka VN750 had self cancelling blinkers - they obviously weren't >> a selling point if your 2008 Kwaka doesn't have them... >> >> JL >> turned off when you turned the bars btw >> > Am I missing the joke or are you REALLY saying that a motorcycle's > self-cancelling indicators work on handlebar movement?!!? Yup, assuming my addled brain hasn't messed up the facts - IIRC it would self cancel on a counter steer input (or it might have just been any diversion from where it was when you turned it on) JL |