Idea for self-cancelling blinkers
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From: theo on 7 Dec 2008 18:51 On Dec 6, 3:51 pm, CrazyCam <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Kevin Gleeson wrote: > > On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:27:24 GMT, "Knobdoodle" > > <knobdoo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> "jl" <not-h...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >>> My 1984 Kwaka VN750 had self cancelling blinkers - they obviously weren't > >>> a selling point if your 2008 Kwaka doesn't have them... > > >>> JL > >>> turned off when you turned the bars btw > > >> Am I missing the joke or are you REALLY saying that a motorcycle's > >> self-cancelling indicators work on handlebar movement?!!? > > > I was trying to remember. My RZ250 in the early 80s had > > self-cancelling I think. I'm sure I've ridden something with them. And > > my unreliable memory tells me that they were actually cancelled a > > certain distance after a small handlebar movement. At low speed you > > will do a small amount of direct steer. I'm happy to be proved wrong > > and there was some other system doing it, but that long ago it had to > > be mechanical. But it worked fine. That bit I DO remember. > > I'm fairly sure the RZ didn't have self canceling blinkers, but mid-80's > they were a "fashion". > > Quite a few bikes had them, I particularly remember the Kwaka GT750, > which canceled on the basis of distance traveled. > > I really didn't like the system, 'cos there were lots of times I wanted > the blinker on for quite a while. :-( My memory of the Yamaha version is quite specific. I recall they turned off after 150 metres or xx (ten?) seconds, whichever occurred last. So you could sit at stop-lights for a minute without them cancelling and they were still suitable for overtaking. Theo
From: George W Frost on 7 Dec 2008 20:48 "theo" <theo(a)bekkers.com.au> wrote in message news:0327390c-0858-4c7c-b55e-8c7f2f233545(a)u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com... On Dec 7, 7:54 am, G-S <ge...(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: > CrazyCam wrote: > > > Quite a few bikes had them, I particularly remember the Kwaka GT750, > > which canceled on the basis of distance traveled. > > AHHA! > > I did 40,000kms on one of them in the 80's that must be the 'bike with > the self canceling indicators based on a distance traveled system' that > I remember owning (well... for small values of 'remember') :) Wot? They turned off after 40,000 kms? Helen's V65SP had tail-lights that turned off after about every 1000 kms, but I fixed that by packing the light fitting with foam. Theo ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My tail light goes out even after a short 5 kilometre trip, think it might have something to do with when I turn the key to the off position
From: knobdoodle on 7 Dec 2008 23:35 On Dec 8, 7:39 am, Kevin Gleeson <kevinglee...(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote: > On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:08:35 GMT, "Knobdoodle" > > > > > > <knobdoo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >"Kevin Gleeson" <kevinglee...(a)imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message > >news:jggjj4d4h9odjmuevk1on7oar7u6af8ppt(a)4ax.com... > >> , "Knobdoodle" > <knobdoo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>Am I missing the joke or are you REALLY saying that a motorcycle's > >>>self-cancelling indicators work on handlebar movement?!!? > > >> I was trying to remember. My RZ250 in the early 80s had > >> self-cancelling I think. I'm sure I've ridden something with them. And > >> my unreliable memory tells me that they were actually cancelled a > >> certain distance after a small handlebar movement. At low speed you > >> will do a small amount of direct steer. I'm happy to be proved wrong > >> and there was some other system doing it, but that long ago it had to > >> be mechanical. But it worked fine. That bit I DO remember. > > >I reckon you're on the droogs Kev! > >Though you're not the first person who has assumed that > >motorcycle-indicators cancel the same as car ones I'd be very very surprised > >so find some that do and I'd be fookin' STUNNED if a Yamaha RZ250 ever did! > > Fair enough, but there was some bike I rode with them and it was ages > ago. It wouldn't have been the XT250 or the VF750 or the VF1000R and > ceratinly no any after that. The RZ was the only one I could not write > off as having them. Maybe I was riding a mate's bike or something?- Hide quoted text - > No no, I'm not saying it didn't have self-cancelling indicators Kev (in fact I'd pretty-much stake my leftie that it and every other descendent of the '70s RDs DID); I'm saying that it wasn't steering- cancelled. -- Clem
From: F Murtz on 7 Dec 2008 23:45 Smeeegles wrote: > Doctor Shifty wrote: >> I'm riding a lot in the city with this new bike. Mostly turns off the >> blinkers by auto-pilot, but not always. And having them running is a >> nuisance to following traffic. So I thought of a simple solution. >> Trouble is, perhaps there's something I haven't thought of. >> >> The push-in blinker canceller is just another wire being connected in >> the switch block. So another wire in parallel will do the trick. But >> where to control this cancelling wire? >> >> My idea is to have a micro-switch operate on a gear up-shift. This >> will turn the blinkers off as I change up out of the corner, but will >> allow them to stay on as I change down approaching a corner. >> >> It sounds as simple as possible. Can anyone see any circumstance where >> this won't work that I might have missed? >> >> Thanks >> Kim > > > BMW has them I've got a beeper (can switch it off, annoying) and a high intensity led and I still forget to cancell
From: theo on 8 Dec 2008 00:13
On Dec 8, 10:48 am, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "theo" <t...(a)bekkers.com.au> wrote in message >> Wot? They turned off after 40,000 kms? Helen's V65SP had tail-lights >> that turned off after about every 1000 kms, but I fixed that by >> packing the light fitting with foam. > My tail light goes out even after a short 5 kilometre trip, > > think it might have something to do with when I turn the key to the off > position Yeah, but your's probably comes on again when you turn the key to on. Theo |