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From: sleazy on 1 Nov 2009 14:02 On 2009-11-01 12:52:11 -0500, Sean_Q_ <no.spam(a)no.spam> said: > sleazy wrote: > >> Gee, big ole mean wild animals bite and maul. Who'da thunk it? <snip> > However my friend who lives at the blueberry farm down there was > threatened by a pack, right near his home. He was walking their dog, > a poodle/maltese/something (a real coyote snack) when 6 of them > ran right towards him from over the field. Luckily he was close > enough to the house that he had time to grab the dog and make a run > for the porch, a more defensible position because they couldn't > surround him. They were well into his yard when they broke off > the pursuit and retreated. > > * re pigeons -- I made the mistake of feeding one, and right away > all his sisters and his cousins and his aunts figured they were > entitled to a handout too and suddenly I was in the middle > of a scene like Alfred Hitchcock's _The Birds_. > > SQ I've had one close encounter with a feral dog pack back about 20 years ago while pheasant hunting in mid-Michigan. Fortunately, my hunting buddy and I were carrying loaded shotguns and extra shells. There were a few less when they figured out we were not going to roll over and die for them. The only person responsible for keeping you alive is yourself. Always remember that and take whatever precautions you feel necessary. My primary objective is to come home every night in one piece. -- sleazy 2001 BMW R1150GS 1988 Honda XR600R
From: don (Calgary) on 1 Nov 2009 14:05 On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 05:01:14 -0500, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote: > >> No regrets. > >Seems rather harsh. Considering the source, that surprises you? > >Count yourself fortunate to live in a place where large predatory animals >have been eradicated. Nobody knows how many coyotes there are in North >America, but the population is increasing despite more than 400,000 of them >being killed by hunters every year. Further, they are not some shy critter >who you only encounter by going into the woods--there are estimated to be >more than 2000 of them living in Chicago. It's true that coyote attacks on >humans are rare with few fatalities, but they do happen, and are becoming >increasingly common as coyote populations in suburban and urban areas >increase and as idiots put out food for them. > >Here's one in downtown Calgary >http://www.flickr.com/photos/sherlock77/2116330327/ We have had coyotes wandering the streets of Calgary for decades. The picture in the link above was taken in a very heavily used public park. Princes Island is an island in the Bow River connected to Downtown Calgary by two causeways. During the summer months, tens of thousands of people could visit the park on a sunny Sunday. Even during the winter hundreds, of people would walk or bicycle along that particular trail every day. I know of four coyote dens located in our urban naturalized parks and who knows how many in the established subdivisions or in the river valley. They have adapted to the urban environment quite well and cause very few problems. A couple of times a year there will be a report of an aggressive encounter but I do not believe there has been an actual attack recorded within the city limits. There are many reports of coyotes attacking and killing small dogs or cats, but only a few of those reports are verified. Personally I would much rather encounter a coyote than a loose dog. The coyote is predictable and can be intimidated while the loose dog is a bit of a wild card and most of them don't know when they are in danger.
From: sleazy on 1 Nov 2009 14:07 On 2009-11-01 11:55:50 -0500, Shantideva Spirit <macmiled(a)gmail.com> said: > On Nov 1, 8:20�am, sleazy <n...(a)nil.net> wrote: >> On 2009-11-01 10:00:25 -0500, Shantideva Spirit <macmi...(a)gmail.com> said > : > >>> I am not in this world to live up to your expectations, etc... >> >> And you're succeeding exceedingly well at it. �Twit and plagiarist. > > Attributed quotes and commonly used aphorisms are NOT plagiarism. Twit and wannabe intellectual. My schnauzer is smarter than you. At least he knows how to roll over and shake paws. All you're good for is pointing fingers at and laughing. -- sleazy 2001 BMW R1150GS 1988 Honda XR600R
From: don (Calgary) on 1 Nov 2009 14:11 On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:52:11 -0800, Sean_Q_ <no.spam(a)no.spam> wrote: > >However my friend who lives at the blueberry farm down there was >threatened by a pack, right near his home. He was walking their dog, >a poodle/maltese/something (a real coyote snack) when 6 of them >ran right towards him from over the field. Luckily he was close >enough to the house that he had time to grab the dog and make a run >for the porch, a more defensible position because they couldn't >surround him. They were well into his yard when they broke off >the pursuit and retreated. Your friend may have felt threatened but the coyotes were surely after the small dog. Had he been walking on his own I doubt he would have seen the coyotes. It's also unusual to see them hunt in a pack.
From: don (Calgary) on 1 Nov 2009 14:18
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:26:55 -0800, Sean_Q_ <no.spam(a)no.spam> wrote: >J. Clarke wrote: > >> That attack could as easily have happened in Chicago or >> Boston or San Francisco-- > >However the expert said eastern coyotes are more aggressive >(and bigger) than in the West. Not that I'm anxious to try >and verify this in person... > >SQ I think her comment regarding the aggressiveness of the animals was qualified with "people have reported". That's a bit of a stretch from a definitive statement. Up until this incident I haven't seen any data supporting eastern coyotes are more prone to attacking humans than those in other areas. |