From: Aham Brahmasmi on
AP LOS ANGELES (April 17) -- A white supremacist group rallied against
illegal immigration in downtown Los Angeles Saturday as hundreds of
counter-protesters gathered to shout them down in a tense standoff
that included several arrests, thrown rocks and police in riot gear.

Police officers stood between the white supremacists and counter-
demonstrators on the south lawn of Los Angeles' City Hall, where about
50 members of the National Socialist Movement waved American flags and
swastika banners for about an hour.

Richard Vogel, AP
An unidentified man is confronted by an counter-protesters during a
white supremacist rally in Los Angeles on Saturday. .
Five people, all of them counter-protesters, were arrested for
throwing items, police said.

The white supremacists, many of them wearing flack helmets and black
military fatigue uniforms, shouted "Sieg Heil" before each of their
speakers took the podium to taunt counter-protesters with racial, anti-
Semitic and misogynistic epithets.

"We will meet you head on," one of the white supremacists, whose name
could not be made out over the fuzzy public address system, warned the
crowd from behind several phalanxes of police in riot gear.

Members of the Detroit-based group said they picked the location for
their rally because of Los Angeles' large immigrant population. They
accused some of the immigrants of stealing jobs and committing crimes.

Group members also said they were reacting to the recent number of
street marches across the country encouraging legislators to enact
reform that includes amnesty for some illegal immigrants.

National Socialist Movement regional director Jeffrey Russell Hall
announced that the group would begin backing political candidates who
agreed with their anti-immigrant message.

But much of the white supremacists' words were drowned out by such
chants as "Hey hey, ho ho, Nazi scum have got to go" from the larger
crowd of about 500 counter-protesters who held signs that read "Nazis:
Get Out of Los Angeles" and "Racists Are Ignorant."

There was a brief flare-up of violence before the speakers arrived. A
shirtless man was seen being escorted to safety behind police lines by
a plainclothes officer as counter-protesters punched and grabbed at
him. Blood could be seen at the base of the man's neck.

National Lawyers Guild executive director James Lafferty, who attended
both as a legal observer and counter-protester, said he saw the man
get into a fight with crowd members who saw his Nazi lightning bolt
tattoos.

Police Commander David Doan said a second man who crowd members
believed was sympathetic with the white supremacists was also
assaulted during the rally. Both men were treated for minor injuries
at a hospital and released.

As the rally ended, counter-protesters hurled rocks, branches and
other items over the police line and into a parking lot where the
white supremacists' had left their cars.

Some members of the group had trouble starting a black Ford Mustang
and attempted to hook up jumper cables to their engine. They protected
themselves from the flying debris by holding up swastika-emblazoned
shields.

The white supremacists eventually gave up and pushed their car away so
they could jump-start it out of range of the projectiles.
From: 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 on
On Apr 17, 11:56 pm, Twaddle <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Alas; the police -many of whom are minority members these days- were
> required to protect the Nazi wanna-bees from the anti-Nazi crowd, who
> outnumbered and out-meaned the toy Nazis about 200 to 1.   If the cops
> did what most of 'em no doubt would like to do; I.E. stand aside and
> let nature take it's course; there would have been no Nazis left in
> about five minutes.

Of course, you must realize that the police are sworn to uphold
municipal and state laws, as well as the US constituion, which
protects free speech and the display of religious symbols, such as the
much-maligned swastika.

What if bigots were able to threaten Christians for displaying
crosses?

What is "racist" or "anti-semitic" about publicly displaying the 卐?

The 卐 dates back almost 10,000 years.

The 卐 is an ancient sun symbol.

The 卐 is a Chinese character.

The 卐 means myriad, or 10,000 in Chinese.

The 卐 is a Hindu symbol.

The 卐 appears on the Jain flag.

The 卐 was part of the flag of the Cuna Indians who live on small
islands in the Caribbean.

The 卐 is a Buddhist symbol. One may see statues of the Buddha which
have
the 卐 on them.

The 卐 appears on maps in Asia to denote temples.

The 卐 means good luck.

The 卐 is drawn on houses in India.

The 卐 is a common design in many cultures including Native American
tribes.

There is a town named 卐 that has refused to change its name.

The 卐 is one of the most powerful symbols in the world.

The 卐 is an ancient symbol which appeared in European architecture
long before the National Socialist German Workers Party used it as
their logo.

Adolf Hitler remembered the 卐 symbol he saw being used to decorate a
Roman Catholic church in Austria before WWI.

Hermann Goering flew with the Red Baron's Flying Circus in WWI and
used the 卐 as a good luck symbol on his airplane.

Hermann Goering wasn't the only person used the 卐 as a good luck
symbol.

The 卐 was widely used by soldiers as a good luck symbol.

The 卐 was banned by Google from showing up in Google hot trends.

The display of the 卐 is found to be offensive by Europeans, even
though the 卐 is a holy symbol in much of the world.

The European Union tried to prohibit the 卐, but failed, because
"politically incorrect" European ideas about it don’t fit in with a
multicultural society.

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From: Polarhound on
Left out of the article:

The counter-protest was organized by La Raza. For the uninitiated, La
Raza is a hispanic hate group with a name that translats into, "The Race."

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Move along, nothing to see here.
From: Twibil on
On Apr 18, 6:59 am, Polarhound <polarho...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> Left out of the article:
>
> The counter-protest was organized by La Raza.  For the uninitiated, La
> Raza is a hispanic hate group with a name that translats into, "The Race."

And now back in the real world; where it's a political advocacy group
much akin to The Sons Of Italy:

National Council of La Raza
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) is a non-profit and non-
partisan advocacy group in the United States. Its stated focus is on
reducing poverty and discrimination, and improving opportunities for
Hispanics. According to the organization's website, it is "the largest
national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the United
States" and "serves all Hispanic subgroups in all regions of the
country".[1] NCLR receives funding from philanthropic organizations,
such as the Ford Foundation, and corporations such as Citigroup and
Wal-Mart. NCLR serves its constituency by means of its Affiliates,
nearly 300 community-based organizations. The NCLR is headquartered in
Washington, D.C. and maintains eight regional offices in Atlanta,
Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Phoenix, Sacramento, San Antonio, and
San Juan, Puerto Rico. The current president is Janet Murguía.[2]

> Pot. Kettle. Black.

Seeing as how the crowd greeting the toy Nazis was composed of every
different racial and ethnic group you can imagine -and as anyone who
saw the TV footage already knows- the idea that the anti-Nazi
protestors were either all or even mostly radical Latinos is pure
bullshit: designed to promote the idea that anti-Nazis and Nazis come
down to being the same thing.

This is an old -and classic- propaganda technique known as The Big
Lie: "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."

> Move along, nothing to see here.

Well, nothing except you trying to excuse Nazis as being something
other than the lowest form of human garbage on the planet.

From: 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 卐 on
On Apr 18, 11:37 am, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) is a non-profit and non-
> partisan advocacy group in the United States. Its stated focus is on
> reducing poverty and discrimination, and improving opportunities for
> Hispanics. According to the organization's website, it is "the largest
> national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the United
> States" and "serves all Hispanic subgroups in all regions of the
> country".[1] NCLR receives funding from philanthropic organizations,
> such as the Ford Foundation, and corporations such as Citigroup and
> Wal-Mart.

Well, gol-lee. Gomer, how come is it that Ford, Citigroup and Wal-Mart
don't feel all philanthropic towards WHITE people, IOW, REAL
Americans?

There wouldn't be any advantage, besides TAX AVOIDANCE that would
cause big companies to set up TRUSTS would there?
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Ted Kennedy's Immigration Legacy -- and why did he do it?

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/september-2-2009/ted...


By Roy Beck, Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 10:22 AM


I was dining in downtown Boston with a long-time acquaintance of
Teddy
Kennedy at the very time the Senator died a week ago. We had
discussed
what had caused Kennedy to pursue immigration policies that so
fundamentally changed America. I got the news when I awoke the next
morning to the Massachusetts TV stations doing their eulogies. I
decided to wait until after burial to share my thoughts.


Since NumbersUSA is a truly non-partisan and non-ideological
organization, I want to choose my words carefully because so many of
our members absolutely hated Kennedy while many others of our members
truly loved many of Kennedy's policies (although fully disagreeing
with him on immigration).


The first group saw his immigration policies as emblematic of a
Kennedy inclination to destroy the America as they loved it. The
second group saw his immigration policies as an aberration that
fatally undermined what they saw as many wonderful Kennedy
initiatives
to improve America.


Whichever it was -- or something in between -- Ted Kennedy's
immigration policies have destroyed the ability of the United States
to be an environmentally sustainable nation in any decade soon
because
of the gigantic U.S. population growth that he has forced.


And Ted Kennedy's immigration policies have knocked hundreds of
thousands of Americans out of the middle class as their occupations
have collapsed and wages declined because of inundation with
Kennedy's
favored foreign workers, or because they have directly lost their
jobs
to foreign competitors.


HE WAS AN EXCEPTIONALLY SKILLFUL OPPONENT


For those of us desiring the traditional lower numerical immigration
that, ironically, Pres. John Kennedy had advocated in his A Nation of
Immigrants book, it was our great misfortune that the person leading
our opponents in pursuing ever-higher numbers these last 45 years was
perhaps the most skillful Senator of the last half-century in getting
things done his way.


Ted Kennedy surely was one of the most influential Senators in our
history.


His influence on immigration alone brought more change to America
than
the work of any other Senator during my lifetime.


Just as a reminder, let's make a short list of the immigration
policies that Kennedy and his extremely talented staff put into
effect:


The 1965 revamp of the entire immigration system. It ended 40 years
of low immigration, got rid of solid numerical caps and opened up
chain migration into every overpopulated country in the world,
exploding annual immigration numbers.
Massive expansion of the refugee programs in the late 1970s, opening
up massive loopholes and encouraging a domestic resettlement industry
that became a major lobby for more and more overall immigration.


The 1986 blanket amnesty. Kennedy's skills may have been best seen
here where he got legislators on our side to agree to the amnesty in
exchange for enforcement rules that he made sure were written in a
way
that would not work. Within a decade, he would be using the
inability
to enforce the 1986 rules as an excuse for why we needed more green
cards and more amnesties. An example of Kennedy's great skill was
that
he persuaded Ronald Reagan to enthusiastically support this bill.


The 1990 immigration act, which increased overall immigration by
another 35%. The first Pres. Bush was Kennedy's co-partner, just as
the second Pres. Bush was Kennedy's eager co-partner in trying to
force through another blanket amnesty 2001-2008.


The 1990 act also established the lottery whereby we randomly give
away 50,000 green cards a year to people in countries picked because
they have the least ties and cultural association with the United
States, and which disproportionately are terrorist-sponsoring
countries. This was something of a compromise for Kennedy who was
able
to ensure that during the first few years, much of the lottery
winners
would be illegal aliens from Ireland -- his own ethnic group.


The H-1B visas which have enabled corporations to keep hundreds of
thousands of American kids from getting a foothold in the high tech
industry.
The total defeat of liberal civil rights champion Barbara Jordan's
blue-ribbon commission recommendations to reduce overall immigration
and eliminate chain migration and the lottery in 1996.


Six mini-amnesties that passed in the 1990s, primarily aimed at
specific nationalities.
BUT YOU BEAT HIM REPEATEDLY SINCE 2000


As depressing as his immigration victories are to contemplate, you
should feel some comfort in the fact that he was totally a failure
after the year 2000 in expanding his immigration dream still further.


Every year since 2000, Sen. Kennedy pushed an amnesty. Every year, he
pushed increases in foreign workers.


But every year, Sen. Kennedy's efforts were stopped by public
pressure.


I believe an important reason for that was that during the late
1990s,
NumbersUSA was building a counter-force. Under Jim Robb's foresight,
we created an innovative internet grassroots mobilization system and
raised an ever-expanding army. And Capitol Hill veteran Rosemary
Jenks
had gone to Kennedy's territory to get her law degree from Harvard.
She arrived back in Washington in August of 2001 and set up our
Capitol Hill offices and operations.


After 25 years of almost always getting his way on immigration, Ted
Kennedy's power and influence were checked after August 2001.


But his power has still been strong enough to prevent us from success
in rolling back the destructive immigration policies he put in place
from 1965 through 2000.


While he no longer was able to accelerate the change, his continuing
immigration policies every year make the quality of life in the
United
States worse. Until we change those policies, Ted Kennedy's
immigration legacy will continue to deteriorate our American dreams
of
economic justice and environmental sustainability and individual
liberty.


KENNEDY UNDERMINED WHAT HE SAID WERE HIS HIGHEST PRINCIPLES


At the graveside service in Arlington National Cemetery, we learned
what Ted Kennedy wanted the Pope to know about the principles that
drove him. Retired Cardinal McCarrick read from an appeal to the pope
for a final blessing, written we presume by Kennedy in his last
weeks:


I know that I have been an imperfect human being, but with the help
of
my faith, I have tried to right my path. I want you to know, Your
Holiness, that in my nearly 50 years of elective office, I have done
my best to champion the rights of the poor and open doors of economic
opportunity. I've worked to welcome the immigrant, fight
discrimination and expand access to health care and
education. . . .


This was a typical comment among the thousands who honored Ted
Kennedy
this last week:


Senator Kennedy helped change the character of the immigration
system,
and indeed the country, bringing the United States a step closer to
its founding ideals of fairness and opportunity for all.


-- Former Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner Doris
Meisner


Hmmm, what ideals of fairness did Meisner have in mind? Does she
think it was fair to drive all those American drywallers out of their
jobs? How about all the American meat packer workers who lost their
jobs and incomes to Kennedy's army of immigrant workers? Of course,
Meisner was the chief of enforcing immigration laws that she thought
were unfair and out of step with our nation's ideals. She and
Kennedy
fundamentally believed that our laws limiting immigration are evil or
unjust.


But NumbersUSA's website is full of page after page of information
showing that Kennedy's immigration policies have in fact undermined
the ability of the poor to find good-paying jobs and to get on the
ladder of opportunity.


The policies have undermined the fight against discrimination by
making it easy for businesses to ignore poor American Black job
applicants in favor of high-motivated immigrant workers. The plight
of the Black underclass seems as intractable today as during the
1960s.


Kennedy's policies have driven scores of urban school districts
backwards through over-crowding and through overwhelming already
precarious schools with masses of non-English-speaking students from
impoverished homes.


Ted Kennedy's immigration policies aren't even good for the
immigrants
who already are here. There is little opportunity in this nation
today
for millions of immigrants who must constantly compete with the next
decade's millions upon millions of new foreign workers.


WHY DID KENNEDY UNDERMINE HIS OWN DREAMS OF OPPORTUNITY, EQUALITY,
EDUCATION


Among less-immigration advocates, a debate has long waged over
whether
the gigantic changes from immigration were what Kennedy sought, or if
they were mostly an unintended consequence that he chose to ignore.


Why was he willing to allow his immigration policies to diminish --
and in some cases -- negate his efforts in other areas?


Among those who disliked Kennedy the most, there has been a sense
that
Ted Kennedy fundamentally distrusted and disliked the citizens of
this
country. The line of thinking is something like this: Even though
the
majority of these citizens had elected his brother President, and
appeared likely to elect another brother to the office, Ted Kennedy
wanted a different citizenry. Perhaps there was a sub-conscious
hatred for the overall American people because of the assassinations
(although one assassin was a foreigner and the other had tried to
emigrate to the Soviet Union). Perhaps he had some Irish immigrant
chips on his shoulder about WASPS disrespecting his family. If he
disliked the balance of power among the citizens of this country,
wildly increasing immigration levels could largely shift the balance
of political power and ideology in the country.


To whatever extent any of that was true, Kennedy's immigration
policies certainly "elected a new citizenry." This country now has
more than 50 million natives of other countries and their children.
In a country of 300 million, that is an incredible influence on every
aspect of our political and social and economic lives, don't you
think.


Most of those 50 million are here as a result of the policies Kennedy
put in place.


Among people with a softer and perhaps more human view, Kennedy
simply
paid no attention to the consequences of his immigration policies.
This line of thinking is something like this: Even if he had paid
attention to the consequences, his commitment to high immigration was
so great, there was no way he could have pulled back.


Back in Boston last week, I gave my dinner companion those two big
choices. Even though he is 100% against Kennedy's immigration
policies and largely in opposition to other Kennedy positions, this
acquaintance since childhood of Ted Kennedy and his family told me he
cannot believe the Senator had a grand plan to radically change
America.


"He's not smart enough for that," the acquaintance said. "But he has
such a big heart." Kennedy's romanticism, sentimentalism and
idealism
were such that once he began to receive accolades from certain
communities for his work on immigration, there was just no way he was
ever going to stop, the acquaintance said.


He also said that he believes that, despite all the liberal veneer,
Kennedy was deeply beholden to the country's banking titans and other
globalist business entities who have so much interest in the free
flow
of international labor and in keeping the wages of Americans
stagnant. (This was given credibility later when Kennedy was lauded
for the great work he did to help the high-tech industry of
Massachusetts to hire foreign computer programmers.)


I really don't know why Ted Kennedy did what he did on immigration.
If
his acquaintance is correct, it perhaps serves as a major warning to
us about how to deal with all the national religious leaders, as well
as our opponents in Congress, who probably really want to believe
that
pushing higher and higher immigration is truly God's will -- and who
will never look at the practical consequences and the millions of
American victims strewn across the American landscape like little
memorials to idealism disconnected from concern about practical
consequences.


ROY BECK is CEO & Founder of NumbersUSA




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