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From: Biker Dude on 26 Nov 2009 02:17 How many manhours of labor should it take to repair various items on Japanese motorcycles? I have several people who have asked me to rebuild carbs on their bikes. I need to have an idea of how long this will take. I have found an online source for Harleys, I do believe there's one for the Japanese bikes. Please help me if you can, thanks in advance. Biker Dude
From: TOG on 26 Nov 2009 04:47 On 26 Nov, 07:17, Biker Dude <jacobsenpa...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > How many manhours of labor should it take to repair various items on > Japanese motorcycles? > > I have several people who have asked me to rebuild carbs on their > bikes. I need to have an idea of how long this will take. > > I have found an online source for Harleys, I do believe there's one > for the Japanese bikes. > > Please help me if you can, thanks in advance. > I'd be really surprised if anything like that exists. I mean, manufacturers have their own rates and times, which they allow for warranty repairs and suchlike, but there are often dodges that mechanics evolve themselves in order to shorten the time (valve-shim- under-bucket changes and starter clutch replacement on some models spring to mind). As for rebuilding carbs on bikes; what carbs? What bikes? Slide carbs? CV carbs? Vees, inline fours, or what? The variables are immense. In addition, you can be sure it will take longer on older bikes than it does on newer ones, because fasteners will be corroded and stuck, or damaged where some donkey has had a go at it first (this holds good for *all* work), and once you get into the carbs a pound to a penny you'll find that the bike hasn't been used for a decade and all the fuel has turned to varnsh, meaning it'll have to be ultrasonically cleaned as well. So how long will it take? "As long as it takes".
From: Hank on 26 Nov 2009 07:57 Way back when I was a Honda parts man, the FRT was on the parts microfiche pages with the parts. It was what they paid for warranty work, about half what it actually took. We figured they let a little japanese guy do twenty practice runs with every power tool he could think of, fed him some uppers, then timed him. I used to double it for repair estimates and usually it was pretty close then. As for you doing "carb rebuilds" on other people's bikes with the amount of knowledge/experience evident from your many posts; NOT recommended........... AND any FRT assumes a trained tech with proper tools, so , totally irrelevant. "Biker Dude" <jacobsenpaule(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0a93c334-4f56-4a9c-adf1-a35fa9fc7ff4(a)j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > How many manhours of labor should it take to repair various items on > Japanese motorcycles? > > I have several people who have asked me to rebuild carbs on their > bikes. I need to have an idea of how long this will take. > > I have found an online source for Harleys, I do believe there's one > for the Japanese bikes. > > Please help me if you can, thanks in advance. > > Biker Dude >
From: frijoli on 26 Nov 2009 09:32 TOG(a)Toil wrote: > On 26 Nov, 07:17, Biker Dude <jacobsenpa...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> How many manhours of labor should it take to repair various items on >> Japanese motorcycles? >> >> I have found an online source for Harleys, I do believe there's one >> for the Japanese bikes. >> >> > I'd be really surprised if anything like that exists. Well you should be surprised then. They actually do exist. Almost all manufacturers in this context use them for their authorized repair shops. I have seen them for Honda and Yamaha, however they are all electronic these days. The flat rate only is a guideline, and typically is longer than an experienced mechanic will take, BUT he gets paid by the book, not how long it takes. Again, for authorized repair centers. I have know idea how to get a copy.
From: TOG on 26 Nov 2009 09:37 On 26 Nov, 14:32, frijoli <c...(a)dud.gov> wrote: > TOG(a)Toil wrote: > > On 26 Nov, 07:17, Biker Dude <jacobsenpa...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> How many manhours of labor should it take to repair various items on > >> Japanese motorcycles? > > >> I have found an online source for Harleys, I do believe there's one > >> for the Japanese bikes. > > > I'd be really surprised if anything like that exists. > > Well you should be surprised then. They actually do exist. Yes, I know that. I said that. What I meant was I really doubt an online version, covering all Japanese bikes, exists. > Almost all manufacturers in this context use them for their > authorized repair shops. Yes, again, that's what I said. I have seen them for Honda and > Yamaha, however they are all electronic these days. Didn't know that, mind. > > The flat rate only is a guideline, and typically is longer > than an experienced mechanic will take, BUT he gets paid by > the book, not how long it takes. Again, for authorized > repair centers. Yes, I know. And in some cases, mechanics develop shortcuts. > > I have no idea how to get a copy. Nor I :-(
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