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From: George W Frost on 26 Mar 2010 02:34 "VTR250" <google(a)m-streeter.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:6a6c0d0b-5b2d-479b-8aad-155ecedb68db(a)s2g2000prd.googlegroups.com... On Mar 26, 7:23 am, G-S <ge...(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: > Iain Chalmers wrote: > > In article <slrnhqll4d.1p55.zeb...(a)gmail.com>, > > Zebee Johnstone <zeb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On the other hand, my SCA experience is that if you give the male of > >> the species a chance to dress brightly and show off magnificent > >> clothes most of them will. > > > Objection! "The male of the species", and "the subset of males of the > > species who show up to SCA events" are _not_ identical sets. > > > big > > That may be technically accurate, but there are other sub groups which > exhibit similar behaviour. > > In recent years various SF gatherings have been increasingly subject to > the trend called 'cosplay' which is in effect 'showing off in > magnificent clothes'. > > To the point where it's taken on it's own life separate and distinct > from the conventions. > > I don't think that just because Zebees example is a subgroup that you > can assume the tendency isn't widespread, or else why do similar effects > occur amongst unrelated groups? > > G-S I wouldn't go to a job interview dressed as a Betazoan in Starfleet uniform. ******************************************* You would if it had anything to do with Centrelink's quota for job applications
From: Zebee Johnstone on 26 Mar 2010 03:09 In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:56:59 -0700 (PDT) JL <jlittler(a)my-deja.com> wrote: > On Mar 25, 2:05?pm, Zebee Johnstone <zeb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Message-ID: <slrnhqhbuu.1n1c.zebeej(a)gmail.com> ? > > You post that like it's helpful to finding it on googlegroups - you're > such a bloody sysadmin sometimes !! It is, except that email isn't *on* google groups for some reason I find. If you go to groups.google.com, select Advanced Search and feed the Message IS of a post into the message ID search box at the bottom of the advanced search page you'll get the post it is referring to. try it with slrnhqj8os.1p55.zebeej(a)gmail.com A look back through the thread on google groups doesn't produce the post in question, so it never made it there. Zebee
From: atec7 7 ""atec77 " on 26 Mar 2010 03:09 JL wrote: > On Mar 25, 11:05 pm, atec 77 <"atec 77 "@hotmail.com> wrote: >> JL wrote: >>> On Mar 25, 9:19 pm, atec 77 <"atec 77 "@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> You didn't even get near the Jacobite influences or even the Scott spill >>>> over >>> Who are you and what have you done with Atec ? >>> JL >> If you ever chat directly with me over cuppa > > Fairly unlikely > > JL I can't advise holding your breath
From: Barry Taylor on 26 Mar 2010 03:14 "JL" <jlittler(a)my-deja.com> wrote in message news:484c06da-fee5-49fb-beca-eb11826df546(a)z18g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 24, 2:46 pm, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> "Zebee Johnstone" <zeb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:slrnhqinie.1n1c.zebeej(a)gmail.com... >> >> >> >> > In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:13:06 -0700 (PDT) >> > JL <jlitt...(a)my-deja.com> wrote: >> >> >> It is extraordinarily unusual for a role to be utterly stand alone, >> >> generally you have to work as part of a team, and your approach to >> >> team is clearly signalled by your willingness to be part of the >> >> culture. An academic article published in the Harvard Business Review >> >> > Definitely. >> >> > And if you don't know the culture, you have to assume it's the >> > "standard" culture for the kind of company. Standard interview >> > culture that is... >> >> > THe interviews I've had I always figure that for the kind of job I do >> > "dressy casual" is the right dress code. If I have a source inside I >> > can find out what suitable wear is. I was warned not to dress up for >> > a couple of jobs. >> >> > I expect even sysadmins to turn up reasonably well dressed for the >> > interview, even if the job is less fancy than that. If only because >> > it shows they know that such things are sometimes needful and they can >> > present corporately if needed. >> >> > On the other hand, anywhere who expected a female sysadmin to turn up >> > in heels and skirt is not a place I'd work in. Totally wrong end of >> > stick. Even if it was a customer facing role, trousers and flat shoes >> > are the proper data centre clothing. >> >> > Zebee >> >> If I was hiring a sysadmin it would not matter whether she turned up in a >> skirt or slacks or an evening dress or jeans and bike boots, with helmet >> of >> coarse. >> The job position would not depend on dress sense > > So, would you hire a guy for a sysadmin role who turned up in a $3,000 > dollar Armani suit without any further investigation ? > > JL mind boggles !!! you expect George to know what a cheap $3,000 Armani suit looks like ??? bjt
From: George W Frost on 26 Mar 2010 03:24
"Barry Taylor" <taylorbj(a)aapt.net.au> wrote in message news:hohms4$hma$1(a)news-01.bur.connect.com.au... > > "JL" <jlittler(a)my-deja.com> wrote in message > news:484c06da-fee5-49fb-beca-eb11826df546(a)z18g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> On Mar 24, 2:46 pm, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> "Zebee Johnstone" <zeb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:slrnhqinie.1n1c.zebeej(a)gmail.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> > In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:13:06 -0700 (PDT) >>> > JL <jlitt...(a)my-deja.com> wrote: >>> >>> >> It is extraordinarily unusual for a role to be utterly stand alone, >>> >> generally you have to work as part of a team, and your approach to >>> >> team is clearly signalled by your willingness to be part of the >>> >> culture. An academic article published in the Harvard Business Review >>> >>> > Definitely. >>> >>> > And if you don't know the culture, you have to assume it's the >>> > "standard" culture for the kind of company. Standard interview >>> > culture that is... >>> >>> > THe interviews I've had I always figure that for the kind of job I do >>> > "dressy casual" is the right dress code. If I have a source inside I >>> > can find out what suitable wear is. I was warned not to dress up for >>> > a couple of jobs. >>> >>> > I expect even sysadmins to turn up reasonably well dressed for the >>> > interview, even if the job is less fancy than that. If only because >>> > it shows they know that such things are sometimes needful and they can >>> > present corporately if needed. >>> >>> > On the other hand, anywhere who expected a female sysadmin to turn up >>> > in heels and skirt is not a place I'd work in. Totally wrong end of >>> > stick. Even if it was a customer facing role, trousers and flat shoes >>> > are the proper data centre clothing. >>> >>> > Zebee >>> >>> If I was hiring a sysadmin it would not matter whether she turned up in >>> a >>> skirt or slacks or an evening dress or jeans and bike boots, with helmet >>> of >>> coarse. >>> The job position would not depend on dress sense >> >> So, would you hire a guy for a sysadmin role who turned up in a $3,000 >> dollar Armani suit without any further investigation ? >> >> JL > > mind boggles !!! > > you expect George to know what a cheap $3,000 Armani suit looks like ??? > > > bjt > > I don't shop at K-Mart, so I wouldn't know |