From: G-S on
bikerbetty wrote:

> As much as I loathe playing the gender card, I wonder whether a bloke in
> fairly tame looking bike boots (no toe-sliders, buckles or butch-looking
> hardware!) and protective pants, with a nicely ironed shirt, would have
> earned similar disapproval.

I experience similar issues often times when I turn up at an industry or
government meeting on the motorbike Betty.

Despite what some people believe there is still discrimination against
motorcyclists, it's just less overt and more of a glass ceiling type of
thing.

It's subtle but it's real as you've just seen :(


G-S
From: bikerbetty on

"G-S" <geoff(a)castbus.com.au> wrote in message
news:4ba8991d$0$8837$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
> bikerbetty wrote:
>
>> As much as I loathe playing the gender card, I wonder whether a bloke in
>> fairly tame looking bike boots (no toe-sliders, buckles or butch-looking
>> hardware!) and protective pants, with a nicely ironed shirt, would have
>> earned similar disapproval.
>
> I experience similar issues often times when I turn up at an industry or
> government meeting on the motorbike Betty.
>
> Despite what some people believe there is still discrimination against
> motorcyclists, it's just less overt and more of a glass ceiling type of
> thing.
>
> It's subtle but it's real as you've just seen :(
>
>
> G-S

Hmmm..... I think I can feel an article coming on.....can I call on you for
anecdotes, G-S? What about the rest of you? Anybody else ever felt that
being a biker has automatically put them in a bad place re jobs/credibility
in industry/government fora?

betty the writer


From: Zebee Johnstone on
In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:43:51 +1100
bikerbetty <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote:
>
> I haven't had the official "Thanks but No Thanks" yet, but from what I've
> heard on the grapevine I think that will come later this week. I'm feeling
> pretty gutted.

Bummer!

Being in a profession where black t-shirts and combat boots are the
standard uniform I haven't had the problem.

I did once ask if riding a motorcycle and therefore never wearing
dresses (my excuse and I'm sticking to it!) was a problem for a public
service job and was told no. Probably because in the mid80s it would
have been very bad juju to have said yes!

I get thanked regularly by a friend of mine for tipping her off to the
fact that unlike her usual PA/Secretary type jobs if she used her
undoubted science skills (she's a fine biological sciences tech) as a
job instead of a hobby she'd never have to dress up again.

"Be a tech" I said "And they won't care what you wear as long is it's
clothes".

(Mind you... this is the same woman who announced the best motorcycle
safety gear she'd ever had was a little red cocktail dress. "There's
no doubt that the drivers saw me.")

Zebee
From: Zebee Johnstone on
In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:44:00 +1100
bikerbetty <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote:
>
>
> Hmmm..... I think I can feel an article coming on.....can I call on you for
> anecdotes, G-S? What about the rest of you? Anybody else ever felt that
> being a biker has automatically put them in a bad place re jobs/credibility
> in industry/government fora?

Like I said earlier... At least I only *sometimes* wear the sysadmin
uniform of the combat or motorcycle boots, the black jeans, the
t-shirt with the cynical saying[1], the leatherman in the belt
sheath and the evil expression.

If I turned up to a sysadmin job interview in "normal interview
clothes" the only people who would hire me are people I wouldn't
work for!

On the other hand... I've been refused service in a restaurant and 2
pubs for turning up in bike kit.

Zebee

[1] my current fave is "I can only please one person today, and today
is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking too good either"
From: Bill_h on
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:57:15 +0000, Zebee Johnstone wrote:

> In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:44:00 +1100 bikerbetty
> <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hmmm..... I think I can feel an article coming on.....can I call on you
>> for anecdotes, G-S? What about the rest of you? Anybody else ever felt
>> that being a biker has automatically put them in a bad place re
>> jobs/credibility in industry/government fora?
>
> Like I said earlier... At least I only *sometimes* wear the sysadmin
> uniform of the combat or motorcycle boots, the black jeans, the t-shirt
> with the cynical saying[1], the leatherman in the belt sheath and the
> evil expression.
>
> If I turned up to a sysadmin job interview in "normal interview clothes"
> the only people who would hire me are people I wouldn't work for!
>
> On the other hand... I've been refused service in a restaurant and 2
> pubs for turning up in bike kit.
>
> Zebee
>
> [1] my current fave is "I can only please one person today, and today is
> not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking too good either"

:)
I have that sitting above my desk. Pity management keep ignoring it :(

Cheers, Bill
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