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From: Mike W. on 8 Mar 2007 01:08 On 5 Mar 2007 07:05:56 -0800, "Potage St. Germaine" <flying_booger(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Mar 4, 9:39?pm, Mike W. <outof...(a)emailbiz.com> wrote: >> On 3 Mar 2007 10:28:57 -0800, "Potage St. Germaine" >> >> <flying_boo...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >Why don't you just install a large 12 volt electric fan so that it >> >blows directly at the air cooling fins on the engine, if you're >> >worried about overheating? >> >> That's an interesting idea... I should see what is possible. > >If you decide to go with the big fan idea, be sure to keep a close eye >on the plastic connectors that hook the alternator and regulator to >the motorcycle wiring harness. >Extra electrical load melts those cheap plastic connectors. I can assure you that anyone who has undertaken the restoration of an emergency vehicle knows that one:) > >> My interest was possibly mounting a cooler with a thermostatically operated >> fan, like you find on trials bikes for the coolant. > >You could probably find some sort of thermoswitch that closes when the >oil temperature gets up around 300 degrees F, and it will get that hot >in the summertime. Just plumb the switch into the main oil gallery. > >If you go to www.partsfish.com and look at the CRANKCASE diagram, part >number 92066 is the main oil gallery plug. You can see that the oil >pressure switch is right beside the oil gallery plug, and that's why >it was so stupid to return oil from an aftermarket cooler to that >point. Good site.. and thanks again. > >> Do you have any ideas as to where they ended up on the police bikes? Police >> bikes obviously see severe duty and it seems to be a very logical >> modification. I guess I could mount it inside one of the forward engine >> guards but I'd SWEAR I saw on in the down tubes a few years ago and didn't >> pay that close attention. > >Dan Gurney modified a lot of KZ1000's for police use in the 1970's, >but I never paid much attention too them when they had me pulled over >for speeding. > >I looked at the 2003 KZ1000P diagrams on www.partsfish.com and I don't >see any oil cooler on any diagram. They were never factory, but I have often heard of those in urban work, as well as some trainers being setup with aftermarket coolers. >> >How do you plumb the thing onto a KZ1000? You take oil off of the main >> >oil gallery, just like the old Lockhart/Derale/Earl's Supply coolers, >> >run it through the oil cooler, and dump it back into the crankcase at >> >the crankcase breather. >> >> How was the connection to the crankcase breather made? Did you just fire >> the oil back into the breather? If so, was there any downside to sealing >> the breather off? > >Personally, I wouldn't want to disable the crankcase breather, but >racers wouldn't much care what systems they defeated when they >modified an engine. I know one that is encouraging me to lengthen the swingarm and turn it into a hill climber:) > >There is probably a baffle plate inside the 14070 body, breather that >is shown on the BREATHER COVER OIL PAN diagram. It would be easy >enough to take the one bolt out of the breather body to see what >you've got there. > >You could also drill a 1/4 or 5/16 inch hole in the camshaft cover and >return the cooled oil to the area of the cam chain tunnel so it could >easily flow back down to the crankcase. > >You really don't need large diameter hoses (like 3/4ths or 1-inch) for >your oil cooler, unless you're counting on the extra cooling effect >you get from the hoses. > >It might look silly to some unenlightened bystanders, but all you >would need is small diameter hoses to an oil cooler, since the flow >through the cooler has to be restricted in order to avoid robbing the >cam bearings of pressure. > Another really articulate response. Thanks again for your help. Mike -- Mike W. 96 XR400 99 KZ1000P 70 CT70 71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
From: Mike W. on 8 Mar 2007 01:35 On 5 Mar 2007 08:10:16 -0800, chateau.murray(a)btinternet.com, <chateau.murray(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >Heh. You talk my language. A close friend actually bought a Z1000P >here in the UK - a few have been imported privately and by used bike >dealers. Nice to meet you. Hopefully you know about the KZ1000P group on Yahoo too. Good guys and an active group. > >His still bore the Providence, Rhode Island stickers on its flanks. >Oh, and it had those weird tyres (OK, tires) that are designed to run >flat after being shot out.... The sidewalls sort of extend over the >edge of the rim. Those are called bead-retention tires. They'll stay on the rim after a loss in pressure. Pirellis... I've moved on to Metzlers myself. > >He replaced the radio mount with a custom made pillion saddle, but >kept everything else, including the big police-issue speedometer. Only >problem was that it was very undergeared for some reason, and redlined >at something like 110mph. I've no idea if that was stock police issue >gearing or what. I have had training from long-time KZP motor instructors who have talked about 120. I believe mine is good to like 122 though I haven't been over 85 on it. The police models were slightly detuned in moving from the C model to the P model. I have a little info on that on this page that I maintain about KZP's: http://users.crocker.com/~mwilliams/KZP.htm Mike -- Mike W. 96 XR400 99 KZ1000P 70 CT70 71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
From: Mike W. on 8 Mar 2007 01:44 On 5 Mar 2007 12:20:25 -0800, "Potage St. Germaine" <flying_booger(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >The rims were called "clencher" rims and Goodyear made the special >tires, as I recall. The KZP run flats were made by Pirelli actually. Instructors are quick to point out that "run flat" is an inaccurate term and that the proper one is bead retention. > >Shooting out a tire on a pursuing motorcycle is like a one in a >hundred possibility, *if* the shooter had an assault rifle and took >his time sighting on the tire instead of the officer. > >High speed pursuits on Southern California freeways are too dangerous, >officers will break off pursuit if the speeds get up around 100 mph. In many jurisdictions, pursuit policy is that motors are a secondary pursuit vehicle and must relinquish the lead position as soon as a 4-wheeler shows up. There was supposedly some epic pursuit last year(?) in socal where a police motor was chasing a civilian bike. The pursuit got dangerous and was ordered abandoned and all did except for one police motor that followed the perp everyplace he went... sidewalks... over curbs... where ever. I believe the chase ended with the perp getting away but all of the police motors were accounted for as having disengaged and the highly skilled pursuit officer was theorized to have been a movie stunt man. This was supposedly aired on tv and lots saw it... I'd love to find a tape or whatever of that chase someday. Mike -- Mike W. 96 XR400 99 KZ1000P 70 CT70 71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
From: Mike W. on 8 Mar 2007 01:48 On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:58:33 GMT, Bob Scott <bob(a)bobandaileen.co.uk> wrote: >Mike W. <outofthe(a)emailbiz.com> writes >> >>I spent too long restoring this and falling in love to get anything else:) >>And there's nothing else in the cop world that can stay with a KZP. > >So what else is in the cop world over your way? > >Round these parts marked plod bikes are either Pan Europeans (Honda >St1100) or BMs (usually K12 or R1100RTs). In my neck of the woods, it's predominantly Harleys, though there are some BMW's showing up. The HD seems to be most suited to the urban mission, and the BMW to the interstate mission. I think there's one department left in New England with KZP's. The ST1300 is starting to see some use in other parts of the country but I've heard of several reports of them having a mysterious stability issue at speed. > >The unmarked traffic police bikes? There's a couple of Honda Blackbirds >and a VFR8 locally, Strathclyde over to the west have a silver ST1300 >(with onboard video) and Grampian plod have (or had last year anyway) a >Ducati 999. I'm reliably informed that some of the English bike cops >have been using the new Fazer 1000 and there's at least one R1 police >bike out there. I haven't heard of any unmarked police bikes over here. One of the big missions of traffic bikes is to be seen though. At least here. Mike -- Mike W. 96 XR400 99 KZ1000P 70 CT70 71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
From: Mike W. on 8 Mar 2007 01:54
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:53:46 -0600, Wudsracer <dirtbike_smackoverRemove(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >Damn it is good to see a post from you, Mike. HEY CARL!:) Awful nice to hear from you again too! My email crew seems to have grown tired of me too.... today actually. An insurrection lead by Asswipe. And after all I've done for him. So you'll have to give me a shout by voice sometime when my cell phone is fully charged so we can catch up for real. >Your post makes perfect sense. (I can see where you are coming from) If only Levy could have seen things as you do during "my career":) > >Wudi Ride starts this evening(tomorrow morning). I wish you were >here. >jeb's Wudi9 web page: http://members.cox.net/jejb/Wudi9/wudi9.html >All the scoop on Wudi9 Winter Fun Ride: >http://www.smackovermotorsports.com/bb/forumdisplay.php?f=7 COOL! Ride safe and have fun. I'll get out to the Wudi sometime. I'm looking for a trials bike and another KZP at the moment, but am committed to spending much much more time on my XR this year. It'll have to be a new riding area, but that's my plan. Please say hello to Deb for me... take care Jim! Mike > >Toodlelooo! I'm off to the Ozark Mtns for a ride. > >Jim > -- Mike W. 96 XR400 99 KZ1000P 70 CT70 71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered) |