From: bikerbetty on

"Moike" <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:46c02a7e$0$15276$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
> GB wrote:
>> BT Humble <bt_humble(a)bigpond.com> wrote in
>> news:1186912511.825178.70210(a)x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>> bikerbetty wrote:
>>>> It's not that Bigger is Better (well, typographically speaking it
>>>> IS... but I won't say a word beyond that!) but I'd just like to know
>>>> who set the bloody text trends recently that made "weenily undoable"
>>>> the default! Who the hell came up with the new text sizing regime?
>>>> Bastards!
>>> You'll be happy to know that all the letters we send out to veterans
>>> are in 14 point type. ;-)
>>
>> At least one student has done the somes and figured out that bulky serif
>> fonts get him better grades. It's a highly scientific
>> study: :-)
>>
>> <http://fadtastic.net/2006/03/12/the-secret-lives-of-fonts/>
>>
>>
>> GB
> There's a fair bit of research that suggests that comprehension levels are
> higher with serif fonts. They are easier to read.
>
> Moike

I find that odd, because I prefer the sans-serif fonts, personally - I find
them cleaner, more streamlined, far more readable... Weird how we're all so
different... (I'm not!)

betty


From: Yeebok on
Well at the mo my main font is 'segoe ui' (vista) but on top of that I
like Trebuchet, the Bitstream Vera ones that come with Open Office and
news gothic. They're all sans fonts to be honest tho I have no trouble
reading serifs I won't use them, not even for threefiddy ..

bikerbetty wrote:
> "Moike" <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46c02a7e$0$15276$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>> GB wrote:
>>> BT Humble <bt_humble(a)bigpond.com> wrote in
>>> news:1186912511.825178.70210(a)x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>> bikerbetty wrote:
>>>>> It's not that Bigger is Better (well, typographically speaking it
>>>>> IS... but I won't say a word beyond that!) but I'd just like to know
>>>>> who set the bloody text trends recently that made "weenily undoable"
>>>>> the default! Who the hell came up with the new text sizing regime?
>>>>> Bastards!
>>>> You'll be happy to know that all the letters we send out to veterans
>>>> are in 14 point type. ;-)
>>> At least one student has done the somes and figured out that bulky serif
>>> fonts get him better grades. It's a highly scientific
>>> study: :-)
>>>
>>> <http://fadtastic.net/2006/03/12/the-secret-lives-of-fonts/>
>>>
>>>
>>> GB
>> There's a fair bit of research that suggests that comprehension levels are
>> higher with serif fonts. They are easier to read.
>>
>> Moike
>
> I find that odd, because I prefer the sans-serif fonts, personally - I find
> them cleaner, more streamlined, far more readable... Weird how we're all so
> different... (I'm not!)
>
> betty
>
>
From: Moike on
bikerbetty wrote:
> "Moike" <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46c02a7e$0$15276$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>> GB wrote:
>>> BT Humble <bt_humble(a)bigpond.com> wrote in
>>> news:1186912511.825178.70210(a)x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>> bikerbetty wrote:
>>>>> It's not that Bigger is Better (well, typographically speaking it
>>>>> IS... but I won't say a word beyond that!) but I'd just like to know
>>>>> who set the bloody text trends recently that made "weenily undoable"
>>>>> the default! Who the hell came up with the new text sizing regime?
>>>>> Bastards!
>>>> You'll be happy to know that all the letters we send out to veterans
>>>> are in 14 point type. ;-)
>>> At least one student has done the somes and figured out that bulky serif
>>> fonts get him better grades. It's a highly scientific
>>> study: :-)
>>>
>>> <http://fadtastic.net/2006/03/12/the-secret-lives-of-fonts/>
>>>
>>>
>>> GB
>> There's a fair bit of research that suggests that comprehension levels are
>> higher with serif fonts. They are easier to read.
>>
>> Moike
>
> I find that odd, because I prefer the sans-serif fonts, personally - I find
> them cleaner, more streamlined, far more readable... Weird how we're all so
> different... (I'm not!)
>
> betty
>
>
I suppose it just depends what value you put on comprehension of your
written message.

http://psychology.wichita.edu/surl/usabilitynews/52/UK_font.htm

http://eserver.org/courses/w01/tc510/hades/kaltenbach1.htm

The second includes this data:
**************************************************************
Comprehension Level: Serif versus Sans Serif typeface [5]
Good Fair Poor
Layout with serif body type 67% 19% 14%
Layout with sans serif body type 12% 23% 65%
**************************************************************

If you are writing for a purpose and you are using sans-serif typefaces
for body text, you may be doing yourself a disservice.

Moike
From: bikerbetty on

"Moike" <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:46c03236$0$14405$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
> bikerbetty wrote:
>> "Moike" <bmwmoike(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:46c02a7e$0$15276$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> GB wrote:
>>>> BT Humble <bt_humble(a)bigpond.com> wrote in
>>>> news:1186912511.825178.70210(a)x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>>>> bikerbetty wrote:
>>>>>> It's not that Bigger is Better (well, typographically speaking it
>>>>>> IS... but I won't say a word beyond that!) but I'd just like to know
>>>>>> who set the bloody text trends recently that made "weenily undoable"
>>>>>> the default! Who the hell came up with the new text sizing regime?
>>>>>> Bastards!
>>>>> You'll be happy to know that all the letters we send out to veterans
>>>>> are in 14 point type. ;-)
>>>> At least one student has done the somes and figured out that bulky
>>>> serif fonts get him better grades. It's a highly scientific
>>>> study: :-)
>>>>
>>>> <http://fadtastic.net/2006/03/12/the-secret-lives-of-fonts/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> GB
>>> There's a fair bit of research that suggests that comprehension levels
>>> are higher with serif fonts. They are easier to read.
>>>
>>> Moike
>>
>> I find that odd, because I prefer the sans-serif fonts, personally - I
>> find them cleaner, more streamlined, far more readable... Weird how we're
>> all so different... (I'm not!)
>>
>> betty
> I suppose it just depends what value you put on comprehension of your
> written message.

Nah, I'm talking about MY response to OTHER people's written message - I
prefer to read stuff in a sans-font. I find it easier on the eyes, and after
years of struggling with appalling student-handwriting, find the clean-cut
sans-serif font a joy to read. Perhaps it's a quirk, and perhaps that's why
I submit my own stuff in Times (which I really don't like, and I often edit
my (long) stuff in a sans-font (for my own comfort) before converting it
prior to submission.)
>
> http://psychology.wichita.edu/surl/usabilitynews/52/UK_font.htm
>
> http://eserver.org/courses/w01/tc510/hades/kaltenbach1.htm
>
> The second includes this data:
> **************************************************************
> Comprehension Level: Serif versus Sans Serif typeface [5]
> Good Fair Poor
> Layout with serif body type 67% 19% 14%
> Layout with sans serif body type 12% 23% 65%
> **************************************************************
>
> If you are writing for a purpose and you are using sans-serif typefaces
> for body text, you may be doing yourself a disservice.
>
> Moike

"If" you are writing for a purpose? Moike, not sure what you mean by that?
Isn't ALL writing for a purpose?

betty


From: Moike on
bikerbetty wrote:

> "If" you are writing for a purpose? Moike, not sure what you mean by that?
> Isn't ALL writing for a purpose?

Yep. That's what I had in mind.

Moike

;)
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