NSW: CTP letters
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From: Yeebok on 13 Jul 2010 19:15 On 13/07/2010 1:22 PM, BT Humble wrote: > Yeebok wrote: >> Response from ..@parliament.nsw.gov.au within 24 hours is not bad: >> >> Thank you for raising your concerns about the increase in cost of >> motorcycle CTP Green Slips in NSW. >> >> Since 1 July, the owners of more than 165,000 registered motorcycles in >> NSW have had to deal with new green slip charges. >> >> The latest cost increase is a result of legislation the Keneally Labor >> Government introduced last year. At the time they said it would only >> result in an increase to the cost of the average Green Slip of >> approximately $10.[1] >> >> The standard green slip fees for a 250cc motorcycle has risen by a >> dramatic 85.5 per cent and will cost many riders up to $470 a year for >> their green slips. >> >> This rise comes on top of electricity, gas, water and vehicle >> registration hikes. >> >> The Keneally Labor Government has an ongoing war on motorists and riders >> and it's vision for our roads network involves more fines, more taxes >> and higher premiums but no new roads. >> >> After nearly 16 years in power they have no ideas and offer no >> solutions on how to fix our State's ailing road network. >> >> The NSW Liberals& Nationals understand your frustration and believe >> riders are rightly disappointed with the Keneally Labor Government as >> this is just another increase that was slipped in without any consultation. >> >> Only the NSW Liberals& Nationals have the practical and positive plans >> that will Make NSW Number One Again. >> >> NSW needs a change of Government but in the meantime, the NSW Liberals& >> Nationals are investigating alternatives to this unreasonable price hike >> in consultation with the Motorcycle Council of NSW and other stakeholders. >> >> I would be more than happy to keep you updated if you like. >> >> Yours sincerely >> >> Ilse van de Meent >> * Use one fullstop after the first name and append the @parliament part >> above if you wish to email them. > > "You have our pity. Now vote for us." > > > BTH > I doubt this reply will change anything but I replied with this: I appreciate the rapid response but a lack of content aside from rubbishing the status quo is not likely to garner my vote for your party. The link to the $10 quote is invalid, do you have a link to any policies or studies that will assuage my concerns and show things *will* change for the better should either Libs or Nats win the next NSW election ? I don't mean to sound unappreciative but the reply doesn't really tell me anything and comes across as a bit of a rant, rather than an informational reply.
From: George W Frost on 13 Jul 2010 19:38 "Yeebok" <yeeb(a)yeeb.yeeb> wrote in message news:9OmdneYcnbUMbqHRnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au... > On 13/07/2010 1:22 PM, BT Humble wrote: >> Yeebok wrote: >>> Response from ..@parliament.nsw.gov.au within 24 hours is not bad: >>> >>> Thank you for raising your concerns about the increase in cost of >>> motorcycle CTP Green Slips in NSW. >>> >>> Since 1 July, the owners of more than 165,000 registered motorcycles in >>> NSW have had to deal with new green slip charges. >>> >>> The latest cost increase is a result of legislation the Keneally Labor >>> Government introduced last year. At the time they said it would only >>> result in an increase to the cost of the average Green Slip of >>> approximately $10.[1] >>> >>> The standard green slip fees for a 250cc motorcycle has risen by a >>> dramatic 85.5 per cent and will cost many riders up to $470 a year for >>> their green slips. >>> >>> This rise comes on top of electricity, gas, water and vehicle >>> registration hikes. >>> >>> The Keneally Labor Government has an ongoing war on motorists and riders >>> and it's vision for our roads network involves more fines, more taxes >>> and higher premiums but no new roads. >>> >>> After nearly 16 years in power they have no ideas and offer no >>> solutions on how to fix our State's ailing road network. >>> >>> The NSW Liberals& Nationals understand your frustration and believe >>> riders are rightly disappointed with the Keneally Labor Government as >>> this is just another increase that was slipped in without any >>> consultation. >>> >>> Only the NSW Liberals& Nationals have the practical and positive plans >>> that will Make NSW Number One Again. >>> >>> NSW needs a change of Government but in the meantime, the NSW Liberals& >>> Nationals are investigating alternatives to this unreasonable price hike >>> in consultation with the Motorcycle Council of NSW and other >>> stakeholders. >>> >>> I would be more than happy to keep you updated if you like. >>> >>> Yours sincerely >>> >>> Ilse van de Meent >>> * Use one fullstop after the first name and append the @parliament part >>> above if you wish to email them. >> >> "You have our pity. Now vote for us." >> >> >> BTH >> > I doubt this reply will change anything but I replied with this: > > I appreciate the rapid response but a lack of content aside from > rubbishing the status quo is not likely to garner my vote for your party. > The link to the $10 quote is invalid, do you have a link to any policies > or studies that will assuage my concerns and show things *will* change for > the better should either Libs or Nats win the next NSW election ? > > I don't mean to sound unappreciative but the reply doesn't really tell me > anything and comes across as a bit of a rant, rather than an informational > reply. > You are getting to be a naughty little boy Yeebs sending nasty letters like that, imagine having the audacity to tell them they are not talking straight
From: Yeebok on 13 Jul 2010 19:44 On 14/07/2010 9:38 AM, George W Frost wrote: > "Yeebok"<yeeb(a)yeeb.yeeb> wrote in message > news:9OmdneYcnbUMbqHRnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d(a)westnet.com.au... >> On 13/07/2010 1:22 PM, BT Humble wrote: >>> Yeebok wrote: >>>> Response from ..@parliament.nsw.gov.au within 24 hours is not bad: >>>> >>>> Thank you for raising your concerns about the increase in cost of >>>> motorcycle CTP Green Slips in NSW. >>>> >>>> Since 1 July, the owners of more than 165,000 registered motorcycles in >>>> NSW have had to deal with new green slip charges. >>>> >>>> The latest cost increase is a result of legislation the Keneally Labor >>>> Government introduced last year. At the time they said it would only >>>> result in an increase to the cost of the average Green Slip of >>>> approximately $10.[1] >>>> >>>> The standard green slip fees for a 250cc motorcycle has risen by a >>>> dramatic 85.5 per cent and will cost many riders up to $470 a year for >>>> their green slips. >>>> >>>> This rise comes on top of electricity, gas, water and vehicle >>>> registration hikes. >>>> >>>> The Keneally Labor Government has an ongoing war on motorists and riders >>>> and it's vision for our roads network involves more fines, more taxes >>>> and higher premiums but no new roads. >>>> >>>> After nearly 16 years in power they have no ideas and offer no >>>> solutions on how to fix our State's ailing road network. >>>> >>>> The NSW Liberals& Nationals understand your frustration and believe >>>> riders are rightly disappointed with the Keneally Labor Government as >>>> this is just another increase that was slipped in without any >>>> consultation. >>>> >>>> Only the NSW Liberals& Nationals have the practical and positive plans >>>> that will Make NSW Number One Again. >>>> >>>> NSW needs a change of Government but in the meantime, the NSW Liberals& >>>> Nationals are investigating alternatives to this unreasonable price hike >>>> in consultation with the Motorcycle Council of NSW and other >>>> stakeholders. >>>> >>>> I would be more than happy to keep you updated if you like. >>>> >>>> Yours sincerely >>>> >>>> Ilse van de Meent >>>> * Use one fullstop after the first name and append the @parliament part >>>> above if you wish to email them. >>> >>> "You have our pity. Now vote for us." >>> >>> >>> BTH >>> >> I doubt this reply will change anything but I replied with this: >> >> I appreciate the rapid response but a lack of content aside from >> rubbishing the status quo is not likely to garner my vote for your party. >> The link to the $10 quote is invalid, do you have a link to any policies >> or studies that will assuage my concerns and show things *will* change for >> the better should either Libs or Nats win the next NSW election ? >> >> I don't mean to sound unappreciative but the reply doesn't really tell me >> anything and comes across as a bit of a rant, rather than an informational >> reply. >> > > You are getting to be a naughty little boy Yeebs > sending nasty letters like that, > imagine having the audacity to tell them they are not talking straight > > I don't see you doing jack .. so .. ? :)
From: Yeebok on 13 Jul 2010 19:45 On 14/07/2010 9:15 AM, Yeebok wrote: > On 13/07/2010 1:22 PM, BT Humble wrote: >> Yeebok wrote: >>> Response from ..@parliament.nsw.gov.au within 24 hours is not bad: >>> >>> Thank you for raising your concerns about the increase in cost of >>> motorcycle CTP Green Slips in NSW. >>> >>> Since 1 July, the owners of more than 165,000 registered motorcycles in >>> NSW have had to deal with new green slip charges. >>> >>> The latest cost increase is a result of legislation the Keneally Labor >>> Government introduced last year. At the time they said it would only >>> result in an increase to the cost of the average Green Slip of >>> approximately $10.[1] >>> >>> The standard green slip fees for a 250cc motorcycle has risen by a >>> dramatic 85.5 per cent and will cost many riders up to $470 a year for >>> their green slips. >>> >>> This rise comes on top of electricity, gas, water and vehicle >>> registration hikes. >>> >>> The Keneally Labor Government has an ongoing war on motorists and riders >>> and it's vision for our roads network involves more fines, more taxes >>> and higher premiums but no new roads. >>> >>> After nearly 16 years in power they have no ideas and offer no >>> solutions on how to fix our State's ailing road network. >>> >>> The NSW Liberals& Nationals understand your frustration and believe >>> riders are rightly disappointed with the Keneally Labor Government as >>> this is just another increase that was slipped in without any >>> consultation. >>> >>> Only the NSW Liberals& Nationals have the practical and positive plans >>> that will Make NSW Number One Again. >>> >>> NSW needs a change of Government but in the meantime, the NSW Liberals& >>> Nationals are investigating alternatives to this unreasonable price hike >>> in consultation with the Motorcycle Council of NSW and other >>> stakeholders. >>> >>> I would be more than happy to keep you updated if you like. >>> >>> Yours sincerely >>> >>> Ilse van de Meent >>> * Use one fullstop after the first name and append the @parliament part >>> above if you wish to email them. >> >> "You have our pity. Now vote for us." >> >> >> BTH >> > I doubt this reply will change anything but I replied with this: > > I appreciate the rapid response but a lack of content aside from > rubbishing the status quo is not likely to garner my vote for your > party. The link to the $10 quote is invalid, do you have a link to any > policies or studies that will assuage my concerns and show things *will* > change for the better should either Libs or Nats win the next NSW > election ? > > I don't mean to sound unappreciative but the reply doesn't really tell > me anything and comes across as a bit of a rant, rather than an > informational reply. > Quick response again no real detail but I've asked to receive updates.. Will post as they arrive. --- Thank you for your email. I understand your frustration and I sincerely hope this email will clarify the current CTP green slip situation and our position. You might like to know that last year in Parliament the NSW Libs & Nats expressed our concerns regarding the escalating cost of green slips for motorcycles. Our Shadow Treasurer, Mike Baird, called on the Government to keep an eye on the costs of CTP green slips for motorcycles to ensure that they are properly managed and to ensure that green slip prices remain low. But we have heard from many people, including yourself, that green slip levies have increased, not by 5 per cent or 10 per cent but by 85 per cent, which is just unfair. In regards to your question about our policies: at the moment we are investigating the issue and trying to obtain as much as information as possible from the Motor Accidents Authority and the NSW Government relating to these increases and also actual crash statistics to see how the current arrangements can be improved. As you can imagine, it has been quite hard as there is not much data publicly available so we have to go through formal Government Information procedures to be able to develop a comprehensive policy. We really believe this issue should be a priority for any Government and we will certainly take on the responsibility to ensure that we do all we can to minimise these costs.
From: Zebee Johnstone on 13 Jul 2010 21:32
In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:45:11 +1000 >>> >> I doubt this reply will change anything but I replied with this: Thanks heaps for all this Yeebok. If 10 more people do it, it will get a lot of attention in their deliberations. It is my guess they know they will get this election (although I thought that last time, talk about defeat from the jaws of victory!) and they will be wanting to win the next one. So they do have an incentive to do a few things in their first term. Zebee |