From: TimC on
On 2010-07-14, Yeebok (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> On 14/07/2010 11:32 AM, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> So they do have an incentive to do a few things in their first term.
>>
> No worries there Zeebee. I am just glad my rego was due 29/6 :)

I foolishly bought a bike a few days ago, rather than buying it when I
first test rode it a month ago.


Should arrive in the post in a couple of days. Pity I'm going on
night shift tomorrow and can't enjoy it for another week.

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you're posting nonsense???? -- Beable van Polasm
From: TimC on
On 2010-07-14, BT Humble (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> If car owners and drivers had to pay the real cost of their vehicle
>> then a hell of a lot of things would change but they don't. And won't
>> in a democracy.
>
> How many times do I have to say this? DEMOCRACY JUST DOESN'T WORK,
> PEOPLE!
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From: George W Frost on

"TimC" <tconnors(a)rather.puzzling.no-spam-accepted-here.org> wrote in message
news:127909901231352-twc(a)hexane.ssi.swin.edu.au...
> On 2010-07-14, Yeebok (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>> On 14/07/2010 11:32 AM, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>> So they do have an incentive to do a few things in their first term.
>>>
>> No worries there Zeebee. I am just glad my rego was due 29/6 :)
>
> I foolishly bought a bike a few days ago, rather than buying it when I
> first test rode it a month ago.
>
>
> Should arrive in the post in a couple of days. Pity I'm going on
> night shift tomorrow and can't enjoy it for another week.
>
> --
> TimC


You bought a postie bike ??


From: Yeebok on
On 15/07/2010 12:08 AM, George W Frost wrote:
> "TimC"<tconnors(a)rather.puzzling.no-spam-accepted-here.org> wrote in message
> news:127909901231352-twc(a)hexane.ssi.swin.edu.au...
>> On 2010-07-14, Yeebok (aka Bruce)
>> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>>> On 14/07/2010 11:32 AM, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>>>> So they do have an incentive to do a few things in their first term.
>>>>
>>> No worries there Zeebee. I am just glad my rego was due 29/6 :)
>>
>> I foolishly bought a bike a few days ago, rather than buying it when I
>> first test rode it a month ago.
>>
>>
>> Should arrive in the post in a couple of days. Pity I'm going on
>> night shift tomorrow and can't enjoy it for another week.
>>
>> --
>> TimC
>
>
> You bought a postie bike ??
>
>
That'd be with, not in, surely ?
From: Yeebok on
On 12/07/2010 7:53 AM, Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> If you are annoyed at the increases in CTP, then time to write a
> letter. (A real snail mail one is best, email if you must)
>
> This from the MCC
>
> (these were discussed in the meeting, a meeting I
> couldn't make, so I can't expand on the points. If yo uwant expansion
> please ask about the ones that aren't clear and I'll get the info)
>
> Please find below the bullet points that we would like you to use in
> your words in letters to the following:
>
> Your State Local Member.
> http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/members.nsf/V3ListCurrentMembers
> Your Local Council/Mayor.
> Your Federal Local Member.
> Your local Paper.
> Premier of NSW: Kristina Keneally, premier(a)www.nsw.gov.au
> The Minister for Roads: David Borger,
> minister(a)borger.minister.nsw.gov.au
> The Minister for Transport: John Robertson,
> office(a)robertson.minister.nsw.gov.au
> The Minister for the MAA: Eric Roozendaal,
> enquiries(a)treasurer.nsw.gov.au
> The Minister for Finance: Michael Daley,
> office(a)daley.minister.nsw.gov.au
> Leader of the Opposition: Barry O'Farrell, LOP(a)parliament.nsw.gov.au
> Shadow Minister of Transport: Gladys Berejiklian,
> willoughby(a)parliament.nsw.gov.au
> Shadow Minister for Roads: Andrew Stoner oxley(a)parliament.nsw.gov.au
>
>
> Ask these questions and use these points:
>
> Why are some CTP insurers making no effort to offer
> competitive pricing for a compulsory, statutory product?
> - Clearly, the CTP system is fat and lazy with few incentives to
> offer fair pricing
>
> ·Whose turn is to be cheapest next year? GIO seem to be the cheapest this year.
> - Cheap does not mean sub-standard.
> - It indicates one company is pricing based on actual risk and others are seeking profit
> from how they market their product.
> - It is unreasonable for a statutory, compulsory product, to force up pricing by confusing
> or misleading through so-called “marketing”
> - Marketing distortions do not reflect actual risk.
>
> Why should existence of another insurance product or roadside service change pricing for CTP risk?
> - Please explain how these are related to actual CTP claims risk.
>
> Why do some insurers have different risk ratings?
> - If actual risks were known, then all insurers would vary on the same criteria.
>
> How do demerit points relate to actual risk of a CTP claim arising?
> - Demerit points and actual risk of a crash are quite separate
> and no longer indicate crash risk.
> Minor crashes with no injury are about property damage, not CTP claims
> - Speeding fines are simply used as a “malus stick” for revenue
> generation by insurers.
>
> While the MAA is clear on the amount of money leaving the scheme, how much money
> is collected by insurance companies?
> - The question of fair profit follows, but transparency must be achieved.
>
>
> Points to remember in your letters:
> The NSW CTP scheme has flaws and this recent change in motorcycle
> classifications has exposed these flaws to view.
> o These flaws can only be repaired by our elected government.
> o Let them know it needs fixing.
> o Don't just whinge to your mate, then roll over. That's lazy.
> Stand up, speak out.
> o We're being gouged by insurers exploiting the flaws.
> o Speak to Parliament or they assume you're OK with it.
>
> Please forward any responses via email back to us.
>
> In the meantime, we are continuing to plan for the Protest Rally on
> August 31st. Please spread the word.
>
> The next Meeting of the MCC of NSW is on Monday, August 2nd. We would
> welcome all attendees and involvement.
It seems my email's getting forwarded a lot.
I received a reply in PDF from David Swain (which I can't copy the text
from..) advising it has been referred to Michael Daly as the minister
for Finance, to receive "close attention".

Y.