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From: Zebee Johnstone on 17 Jan 2008 20:31 In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:16:50 +1100 Nev.. <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote: > doing the scrutinizing, it's whoever is controlling entry to the > premises in question... and if they can't identify who is and who is not > a patch wearing club member in question, how do you explain the fact > that they've already identified 15 specific patch wearing clubs to > single out? It isn't just patches. It is, as far as can be determined, any "regalia" associated with the club. Such as someone with a Big Red Machine t-shirt. Whether someone wearing such a shirt is a club member, or liable to fight another punter is not guaranteed. Zebee
From: Simone on 17 Jan 2008 20:34 "Damien" <al.qaeda(a)asio.gov.au> wrote in message news:fmorsh$ito$1(a)aioe.org... > > So? The fact that there may exist certain avenues to pursue claims over > unjust calls does nothing in this case, under the rules as presently > understood, to prevent such injustices from occurring in the first place. > It's one thing to target a group that deserves it, but it's another thing > to knowingly also target innocents in the process, as this rule has > considerable potential to do. The problem is not the intent of the ban, > but the manner of its application and enforcement, although you seem to > have considerable difficulty grasping this difference. Dunno why anyone should get their nickers in a knot over how an innocent motorcyclist could be mistaken for a gang member. A simple check of the carpark would determine their credentials...are they riding a motorcycle or a HD? Sim.
From: G-S on 17 Jan 2008 20:46 Theo Bekkers wrote: > G-S wrote: > >> some bouncer with an IQ of 80 > > Ooeeer, one of the smarter ones. > > Theo > > I was referring to the 'supervising bouncer' *kick im in da nads pauly... it 'urts more!* G-S
From: G-S on 17 Jan 2008 20:48 JL wrote: > On Jan 17, 5:59 pm, G-S <ge...(a)castbus.com.au> wrote: >> Zebee Johnstone wrote: > >> You and I would realise that there are no rockers, but would the average >> publican? >> >> I suspect not... >> >> Also what about prospects? They don't have the logo so they'd be let in >> by the same uninformed publican... > > I think you'll find many/most of the clubs use a small logo on the > front panel of the vest to identify the club as well the large logo on > the back, Noms get that small logo to identify what club they are > nominated for before they get their colours. > > JL Oh they often do... but those small logos are not 'colours', and they are banning 'colours' aren't they? [1] G-S [1] My point was that in addition to effecting people not involved with the patch clubs it will also not effect some people involved with them.
From: G-S on 17 Jan 2008 20:53
corks wrote: > "Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:slrnfovbk5.6pj.zebeej(a)gmail.com... >> In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:27:21 +0900 >> corks <trigarti67(a)nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote: >>> ummm can you name or tell me of a patch club that hasnt lived up to their >>> ''colours'' >> Vietnam Veterans? >> >> Zebee > > hmmmm, they dont actually claim to be 1%�rs tho, tho over here they do hang > out a bit with them > > Where would you place 'God Squad' who also wear colours? G-S |