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From: Zebee Johnstone on 17 Jan 2008 20:31
In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:16:50 +1100
Nev.. <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote:
> doing the scrutinizing, it's whoever is controlling entry to the
> premises in question... and if they can't identify who is and who is not
> a patch wearing club member in question, how do you explain the fact
> that they've already identified 15 specific patch wearing clubs to
> single out?
It isn't just patches. It is, as far as can be determined, any
"regalia" associated with the club.
Such as someone with a Big Red Machine t-shirt.
Whether someone wearing such a shirt is a club member, or liable to
fight another punter is not guaranteed.
From: Simone on 17 Jan 2008 20:34
"Damien" <al.qaeda(a)asio.gov.au> wrote in message
> So? The fact that there may exist certain avenues to pursue claims over
> unjust calls does nothing in this case, under the rules as presently
> understood, to prevent such injustices from occurring in the first place.
> It's one thing to target a group that deserves it, but it's another thing
> to knowingly also target innocents in the process, as this rule has
> considerable potential to do. The problem is not the intent of the ban,
> but the manner of its application and enforcement, although you seem to
> have considerable difficulty grasping this difference.
Dunno why anyone should get their nickers in a knot over how an innocent
motorcyclist could be mistaken for a gang member.
A simple check of the carpark would determine their credentials...are they
riding a motorcycle or a HD?
From: G-S on 17 Jan 2008 20:46
Theo Bekkers wrote:
> G-S wrote:
>> some bouncer with an IQ of 80
> Ooeeer, one of the smarter ones.
I was referring to the 'supervising bouncer'
*kick im in da nads pauly... it 'urts more!*
From: G-S on 17 Jan 2008 20:48
> On Jan 17, 5:59 pm, G-S <ge...(a)castbus.com.au> wrote:
>> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> You and I would realise that there are no rockers, but would the average
>> I suspect not...
>> Also what about prospects? They don't have the logo so they'd be let in
>> by the same uninformed publican...
> I think you'll find many/most of the clubs use a small logo on the
> front panel of the vest to identify the club as well the large logo on
> the back, Noms get that small logo to identify what club they are
> nominated for before they get their colours.
Oh they often do...
but those small logos are not 'colours', and they are banning 'colours'
aren't they? 
 My point was that in addition to effecting people not involved with
the patch clubs it will also not effect some people involved with them.
From: G-S on 17 Jan 2008 20:53
> "Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:27:21 +0900
>> corks <trigarti67(a)nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>> ummm can you name or tell me of a patch club that hasnt lived up to their
>> Vietnam Veterans?
> hmmmm, they dont actually claim to be 1%�rs tho, tho over here they do hang
> out a bit with them
Where would you place 'God Squad' who also wear colours?