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From: CrazyCam on 16 Jan 2008 23:40
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> "The Royal Oak already has erected signs spelling out the ban on
> members of 19 bikie clubs."
> However there still is no info easily available on how the list was
> compiled. We'd need to see into the licence to see what they've been
> asked to do.
> Apropos of a boycott: "Apart from fear over bikies' behaviour, other
> patrons had stopped going to hotels with a reputed high bikie
> I suspect that the publicans will sell more food and higher priced
> drinks than they will lose out of this.
Ah! From the report
The Royal Oak's new management is hoping to "change its demographic",
according to licensee Troy Williams.
So they hope to move up market.
Funnily enough, the Royal Oak is one of the few pubs in P'matta that I
used to occasionally drink in.
I won't be doing that again.
From: Zebee Johnstone on 16 Jan 2008 23:45
In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:24:19 -0800 (PST)
intact.kneeslider(a)start.com.au <intact.kneeslider(a)start.com.au> wrote:
> Or, if they want to say you can't go in wearing patch club colours,
> they can already do so. No need to codify it, as such.
The difference here is that they can call the cops. Previously they
had to do it with their own security. Now they can call the cops who
you can bet will respond with great joy to bang people up.
Having it as part of the licence gives the publican much more backup.
From: Damien on 17 Jan 2008 00:39
>> Forget about who it is intended to target, shouldn't the simple fact that
>> it is wrong be sufficient reason to oppose such actions?
> they deserve all they get .....
Who deserves it? The completely innocent law-abiding motorcycle rider
who gets mistaken for a member of a patch club?
I guess respect for the rights of others doesn't mean a whole lot to
From: Zebee Johnstone on 17 Jan 2008 01:10
In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:39:36 +1100
Damien <al.qaeda(a)asio.gov.au> wrote:
> corks wrote:
>>> Forget about who it is intended to target, shouldn't the simple fact that
>>> it is wrong be sufficient reason to oppose such actions?
>> they deserve all they get .....
> Who deserves it? The completely innocent law-abiding motorcycle rider
> who gets mistaken for a member of a patch club?
That hasn't happened in this case that we know of.
And as we don't know what criteria they are using to determine which
clubs are to be banned and what "club regalia" is, we can't tell if it
In the end, what that hypothetical motorcyclist will lose is the right
to be served in that pub.
From: Boxer on 17 Jan 2008 01:16
"Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> IF the publican says "you leave" and you don't leave, then they can
> call the cops.
> If the publican says "you can't come in" and you argue, they can call
> the cops.
They can do this already.