From: Theo Bekkers on
CrazyCam wrote:
> Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>> There's a move afoot in Sydney to ban people from entering pubs if
>> they are wearing outlaw club colours or otherwise displaying club
>> logos. (And they've named the clubs, the ones most of us think of
>> when we think "outlaw club" such as Rebels and Bandidos). THe idea
>> is the pubs themselves do the banning rather than this being a law
>> as such.
>
> It's been done before.
>
> AFAIK, pubs can set whatever conditions they like, wrt people not
> being allowed in, subject, possibly to anti-discrimination
> regulations.

I went to a work do in a pub once and turned up in sneakers. Guy on the door
didn't want to let me in. Changed his mind when I told him it a) was a
private function and b) I had the money to pay for the lot.

Theo


From: Boxer on

"Damien" <al.qaeda(a)asio.gov.au> wrote in message
news:fmms62$pri$1(a)aioe.org...
> Boxer wrote:
>>
>> How many inocent law abiding motorcyclists wear Outlaw Colors?
>>
>> If the Pub Ban would upset them think of their attidude after getting
>> bashed by a real Outlaw Bikie for waring "Colors"
>>
>> Boxer
>
> You either don't get it, or aren't listening, or both.
>
> The problem is not those who ARE wearing 'outlaw colours', but those who
> are THOUGHT to be, but in fact are not. Bouncers aren't known for being
> the brightest of sparks - far from it, in fact. But are you trying to tell
> me that they will be able to infallibly identify and differentiate the
> correct people?
>

So you think "Dumb Bouncers" will ban people who he thinks are wearing
"Outlaw Colors" but are not really, from the pub?



So what are these people wearing that are so "Outlaw Colorish" that are
capable of being mistaken for real "Outlaw Colors"?



Assuming of course that anyone wearing something resembling "Outlaw Colors"
manage to make it to the pub without being bashed senseless by "Real Outlaw
Bikies" as opposed to imitation look alike pretend "Outlaw Bikies".



Boxer


From: G-S on
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> There's a move afoot in Sydney to ban people from entering pubs if they
> are wearing outlaw club colours or otherwise displaying club logos. (And
> they've named the clubs, the ones most of us think of when we think
> "outlaw club" such as Rebels and Bandidos).

This has the potential to cause problems for riders not from the 'named
clubs' eg... a Ulysses rider with a ulysses patch on the back of their
jacket.

You and I would realise that there are no rockers, but would the average
publican?

I suspect not...

Also what about prospects? They don't have the logo so they'd be let in
by the same uninformed publican...

Also there is the thin edge of the wedge argument... if the general
public become aware that motorbike riders are being refused entry
because (general public view) they are *bikies* we'll end up wearing the
flack yet again.

If I could be sure that this would *never* (no not even once) cause any
issues for non club members then I'd say don't bother fighting it, but
that can't be said so yes I'd say speak up against it.


G-S
From: G-S on
corks wrote:
>
> bullshit , i think most people would be more intimidatd by a big arsed '1%�r
> , than prince harry on a night out ......
>

Intimidated by? Maybe...

Offended by? No way *frown*. [1]


G-S

[1] Of course a 1%er wearing Nazi logos is likely to tick both boxes.
[2] Wearing a swatstika crosses the line.

From: Damien on
Boxer wrote:
> "Damien" <al.qaeda(a)asio.gov.au> wrote in message
> news:fmms62$pri$1(a)aioe.org...
>> Boxer wrote:
>>> How many inocent law abiding motorcyclists wear Outlaw Colors?
>>>
>>> If the Pub Ban would upset them think of their attidude after getting
>>> bashed by a real Outlaw Bikie for waring "Colors"
>>>
>>> Boxer
>> You either don't get it, or aren't listening, or both.
>>
>> The problem is not those who ARE wearing 'outlaw colours', but those who
>> are THOUGHT to be, but in fact are not. Bouncers aren't known for being
>> the brightest of sparks - far from it, in fact. But are you trying to tell
>> me that they will be able to infallibly identify and differentiate the
>> correct people?
>>
>
> So you think "Dumb Bouncers" will ban people who he thinks are wearing
> "Outlaw Colors" but are not really, from the pub?
>
>
>
> So what are these people wearing that are so "Outlaw Colorish" that are
> capable of being mistaken for real "Outlaw Colors"?
>
>
>
> Assuming of course that anyone wearing something resembling "Outlaw Colors"
> manage to make it to the pub without being bashed senseless by "Real Outlaw
> Bikies" as opposed to imitation look alike pretend "Outlaw Bikies".
>
>
>
> Boxer
>
>

For a smart person, you're being pretty thick today, I regret to say.

If you still can't work out how such a law could be very easily abused,
or simply don't care (both of which seem to apply), then I fail to see
the point in wasting any more time on you.