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From: rockit on 17 Jan 2008 06:13 "Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:slrnfot880.1i8.zebeej(a)gmail.com... > Is this something we should be concerned about as citizens, that you > get banned because of what you wear or who you choose to associate with, > even though you personally have done nothing wrong? > but I believe other state groups are doing the same, in SA they are > talking about making it law. > > So tell me aus.moto, what do you want the MCC to do in this? Oppose the > ban or not? On principle I have never agreed with the "convenient" dictum of the Ulysses group to ban the wearing of colours because of threats from the patch groups; introduced by a serving policeman too. If clubs and or pubs are able by law to vet their cliental using a dress code, then that is their business. Don't see how the ban can be opposed if it is legally supported. Regularly I hear of Ulyssians refused entry \service because they wear the logo, so this is not a new issue. It should be opposed if it is to be made law; other than that, it is best to remain neutral as it is an issue only between the parties involved, for reasons known to them. Rockit
From: Boxer on 17 Jan 2008 06:21 "Nev.." <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote in message news:478f348f$0$30855$5a62ac22(a)per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > Zebee Johnstone wrote: >> There's a move afoot in Sydney to ban people from entering pubs if they >> are wearing outlaw club colours or otherwise displaying club logos. (And >> >> So tell me aus.moto, what do you want the MCC to do in this? Oppose the >> ban or not? If the MCC should support the UMC in opposition to the ban, >> what form should that support take? > > It seems to me, that this is not a case of some discrimination against > motorcyclists, or anything to do with motorcycles, so there's really > little need for the MCC to get involved or represent the issue on behalf > of the patch clubs in this case. > > This is about where people can wear their club colours, and if I recall > correctly, the wearing of club colours is/was self-policed by the outlaw > motorcycle clubs (google for the threats/actions the Rebels MCC made > against Ulysses members at the Canberra AGM a few years ago regarding the > wearing of coloured patches and rockers), and not the MCC. > > Nev.. > '07 XB12X Agreed. Boxer
From: Biggus :) on 17 Jan 2008 06:56 Do we need to know this before making decisions? >We don't know what criteria they are using to decide what is a gang >logo or gang regalia, we don't know what criteria they are using to >pick one named/logoed group over another. > >Zebee
From: diogenes on 17 Jan 2008 07:08 On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:39:36 +1100, Damien <al.qaeda(a)asio.gov.au> wrote: >> they deserve all they get ..... > >Who deserves it? The completely innocent law-abiding motorcycle rider >who gets mistaken for a member of a patch club? And how would one get "mistaken" for a member of a patch club, Damien? >I guess respect for the rights of others doesn't mean a whole lot to >some people... Certainly not, by definition, to a 1%er... Onya bike !!! Gerry
From: diogenes on 17 Jan 2008 07:30
On 17 Jan 2008 08:21:00 GMT, Zebee Johnstone <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote: >We don't know what criteria they are using to decide what is a gang >logo or gang regalia, we don't know what criteria they are using to >pick one named/logoed group over another. Clearly we don't have enough things to protest about... I think we should call ourselves the Motorcyclists' Liberation Front of Judea... Onya bike !!! Gerry |