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From: Damien on 17 Jan 2008 10:23 diogenes wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:39:36 +1100, Damien <al.qaeda(a)asio.gov.au> > wrote: > >>> they deserve all they get ..... >> Who deserves it? The completely innocent law-abiding motorcycle rider >> who gets mistaken for a member of a patch club? > > And how would one get "mistaken" for a member of a patch club, Damien? I must be surrounded by idiots, if such a simple point still requires explanation. > >> I guess respect for the rights of others doesn't mean a whole lot to >> some people... > > Certainly not, by definition, to a 1%er... > > > Onya bike !!! > > Gerry
From: Damien on 17 Jan 2008 10:30 Biggus :) wrote: > So what your saying is nobody is allowed an opinion different to > yours. They can think whatever they like. I just have this funny expectation in that I think it's nice to actually try to back up what you say, instead of relying on sheer bloody-minded bigotry. Corks isn't opposed because he has thought about it, he's opposed because he's got an axe to grind and laws like this make it easier for him to do so.
From: Iain Chalmers on 17 Jan 2008 11:54 In article <slrnfou3vc.3q7.zebeej(a)gmail.com>, Zebee Johnstone <zebeej(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:14:35 GMT > Boxer <someone(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > > > > > > How many inocent law abiding motorcyclists wear Outlaw Colors? > > It's not just colours, but anything with the logo of the gang, or > related to it. > > So a t-shirt with "big red machine" on it, as that's a Hells Angels > publicity group. > > We don't know what criteria they are using to decide what is a gang > logo or gang regalia, we don't know what criteria they are using to > pick one named/logoed group over another. But like JL pointed out, you never know what criteria they use to decide if your shoes are cool enough or if your hairdo is too "last week"... The thing that's intriguing me about it is that it's getting written into their licence conditions. I wonder who's behind _that_ and why? Is it the cops leaning on the publicans via the liquor licencing court (and if so is "giving the bikies a hard time when we've got nothing to charge them with but know where they're drinking" within the remit of either the cops doing the leaning or the liquor licencing court? It does seem likely to be an abuse of power to me... Is it the publicans looking to give themselves an excuse to not let the bike clubs in? If so, I'm with whoever suggested they read the fine print in their fire insurance policies, 'cause I'm sure the bike gangs wouldn't see right through _that_... "I'm _terribly_ sorry Mr Seargent-at-arms, but you lads can't come in here any more 'cause they've changed my licence conditions and I'll be out of business if I let you in! It's _tragic_, _really!_ We _so_ much enjoy your comapany..." Yep, they'll fall for that for _sure!_ Having said that, they're big boys, they can (and do) fight their own fights. Unless it proves to actually affect non-gang related motorcyclists I'd have a hard time suggesting the MCC put any effort into opposing it... The most likely collateral damage is surely gonna be the Uselyses Club, let them crank up the lobby machine... big -- "Everything you love, everything meaningful with depth and history, all passionate authentic experiences will be appropriated, mishandled, watered down, cheapened, repackaged, marketed and sold to the people you hate." Mr Jalopy quoting Hooptyrides (on jalopyjunktown.com)
From: Iain Chalmers on 17 Jan 2008 12:06 In article <oaiuo3d4o787dtrc3h403onckltldlgcvd(a)4ax.com>, diogenes <cynic(a)society.sux.ok> wrote: > > Clearly we don't have enough things to protest about... I think we > should call ourselves the Motorcyclists' Liberation Front of Judea... Nah, that's him over there (points at Hammo) *SPLITTER!* big -- "Everything you love, everything meaningful with depth and history, all passionate authentic experiences will be appropriated, mishandled, watered down, cheapened, repackaged, marketed and sold to the people you hate." Mr Jalopy quoting Hooptyrides (on jalopyjunktown.com)
From: Zebee Johnstone on 17 Jan 2008 14:26
In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:54:47 +1100 Iain Chalmers <bigiain(a)mightymedia.com.au> wrote: > if your shoes are cool enough or if your hairdo is too "last week"... > The thing that's intriguing me about it is that it's getting written > into their licence conditions. > > I wonder who's behind _that_ and why? The publicans apparently. JL posted the article that's all we know at present. THe idea being that they can now get police presence more quickly if there's the whiff of trouble. Previously there had to *be* trouble. Now it is enough that the unwanted are there. > Is it the publicans looking to give themselves an excuse to not let the > bike clubs in? If so, I'm with whoever suggested they read the fine > print in their fire insurance policies, 'cause I'm sure the bike gangs > wouldn't see right through _that_... "I'm _terribly_ sorry Mr > Seargent-at-arms, but you lads can't come in here any more 'cause > they've changed my licence conditions and I'll be out of business if I > let you in! It's _tragic_, _really!_ We _so_ much enjoy your > comapany..." Yep, they'll fall for that for _sure!_ See above. Once the licence is changed then apparently they can call the cops in without there being any breach of the peace. THat seems to be the only change from previous. That the publicans now have more teeth and can bite harder and faster. Zebee |