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From: hippo on 25 Jul 2010 02:16 CrazyCam wrote: > > Moike wrote: > > Nev.. wrote: > >> On 24/07/2010 6:12 PM, Zebee Johnstone wrote: > >>> http://www.riderripoff.com.au/ > >>> > >>> Authorised by Andrew Stoner MP... > >> > >> IMHO a political alignment will never succeed... it'll only hurt your > >> cause. > >> > >> Nev.. > >> '08 DL1000K8 > > ...and I don't see any "if elected" undertaking to fix the problem. > > > ..and, even if you did see one, would you believe it? > > regards, > CrazyCam > > AFAIR, they *did* come through with repealing Lights On once elected. -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: JustBiggus on 25 Jul 2010 03:35 >And if we can't believe our politicians, why do we vote for them, Who votes anymore??
From: Nev.. on 25 Jul 2010 04:08 On 25/07/2010 4:16 PM, hippo wrote: > CrazyCam wrote: >> >> Moike wrote: >>> Nev.. wrote: >>>> On 24/07/2010 6:12 PM, Zebee Johnstone wrote: >>>>> http://www.riderripoff.com.au/ >>>>> >>>>> Authorised by Andrew Stoner MP... >>>> >>>> IMHO a political alignment will never succeed... it'll only hurt your >>>> cause. >>>> >>>> Nev.. >>>> '08 DL1000K8 >>> ...and I don't see any "if elected" undertaking to fix the problem. >> >> >> ..and, even if you did see one, would you believe it? >> >> regards, >> CrazyCam >> >> > > AFAIR, they *did* come through with repealing Lights On once elected. Which didn't really achieve anything, because it just demonstrated how the whim of the government can change policies which cause the bike industry uncertainty, so while it was no longer a requirement to import lights on models, all of the big manufacturers continued to import no-switch models to Australia. So while they might have repealed the law, the net result was that nothing changed, and only those who changed their switchblocks could take advantage of that. Just as a matter of interest, from an interstater who really doesn't care how much you pay for, since the government privatised the CTP and lets other companies set the rates, why is the government behind held responsible for increases in the rates? If the insurance companies are colluding to increase prices accross the goard, shouldn't you be petitioning the ACCC to enforce competition and investigate non-competitive pricing? Nev.. '08 DL1000K8
From: Zebee Johnstone on 25 Jul 2010 04:23 In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:08:41 +1000 Nev.. <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote: > Just as a matter of interest, from an interstater who really doesn't > care how much you pay for, since the government privatised the CTP and > lets other companies set the rates, why is the government behind held > responsible for increases in the rates? If the insurance companies are > colluding to increase prices accross the goard, shouldn't you be > petitioning the ACCC to enforce competition and investigate > non-competitive pricing? > because it isn't competitive.... the government still has a hand in it. I don't know the exact details, but my understanding is that the MAA sets criteria and possibly some variety of pricing. "CTP insurers also have discretion to offer discounts and impose loadings on premiums within the range allowed by the MAA Premium Determination Guidelines (available in the MAA Guidelines section of this website)." I think the big increases are not the insurance as much as they are the levy that is supposed to pay for people who are totally incapacitated - and it seems to cover people who are not covered by 3rd party insurance. " This scheme provides medical care, treatment, rehabilitation, attendant care and support to anyone catastrophically injured (such as severe spinal cord and/or a traumatic brain injury) for the rest of their life." However... not just those in crashes! As far as I know it is all such people. When it was introduced parliament was told the average would be $20 per vehicle. As they are setting it at a minimum of 30% of the CTP premium it isn't clear how that could ever be true, no matter the average used mode median or mean. Zebee
From: CrazyCam on 25 Jul 2010 19:24
Diogenes wrote: <snip> > And if we can't believe our politicians, why do we vote for them, and > what use is democracy? Good question Gerry. regards, CrazyCam |