From: atec77 on 6 Aug 2010 20:53
On 7/08/2010 6:56 AM, Marts wrote:
> George W Frost wrote...
>> I supply electricity back to the grid, so the electricity company should
>> deduct the charges from my supplying their grid
> Or, you could be charged for a generating licence, as the main generators are...
> Me, I'd be happy just to get the meter to slow down or to stop spinning. But
> given that the size of the panels that I'd require to cover my current usage
> levels, I'd be dead before I saw a nett benefit from it.
> I'll be content with a 12% staff discount and that I pay for my power pre-tax.
We had several problems with the supply people so I pulled the pole fuse
, we used nothing for a 1/4 and still got a bill
idiots I say idiots
From: George W Frost on 6 Aug 2010 22:10
"atec77" <atec77(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> On 7/08/2010 6:56 AM, Marts wrote:
>> George W Frost wrote...
>>> I supply electricity back to the grid, so the electricity company should
>>> deduct the charges from my supplying their grid
>> Or, you could be charged for a generating licence, as the main generators
>> Me, I'd be happy just to get the meter to slow down or to stop spinning.
>> given that the size of the panels that I'd require to cover my current
>> levels, I'd be dead before I saw a nett benefit from it.
>> I'll be content with a 12% staff discount and that I pay for my power
> We had several problems with the supply people so I pulled the pole fuse ,
> we used nothing for a 1/4 and still got a bill
> idiots I say idiots
> X-No-Archive: Yes
Would have been your supply charge, which you cannot get away with
From: Nev.. on 7 Aug 2010 21:21
On 6/08/2010 12:19 PM, George W Frost wrote:
> I sat in the electricity office for 15 minutes after I asked the question to
> a staffer, then she another staffer argued for 15 minutes as to how the
> charges were allocated.
> I was left, not only on the other side of the desk, but totally in the
> outer, so I left with no real answer as to how my solar panel meter output
> shows three times the amount of what the smart meter shows as input to their
The meter is for their billing. It makes sense that they woulnd't want
to capture the amount electricity which you generate and consume
domestically. In Vic they wire it up so that this number doesn't get
recorded on your meter, but its not that difficult to calculate.
Assuming your meter is set up similarly to most PV meters in Melbourne,
it's simple. Your electricity falls into one of three categories.
Electricity you take from the grid
Electricity you generate back to the grid
Electricity you generate and use domestically.
Your meter will show you the amount of electricity you take from the
Grid. Your meter will show you the amount of electricity you generate
back to the grid. Your inverter will show you the total electricity you
generated. Subtract the amount you take from the grid, from the amount
your inverter recorded you generated, and that is the amount you used
domestically. If you don't think the number make sense, isolate the PV
from the grid and then you will see all of your elecricity use on your
meter and you can compare the figures (and pay for the privilege).
From: theo on 7 Aug 2010 22:44
On Aug 7, 10:10 am, "George W Frost" <georgewfr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> "atec77" <ate...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > We had several problems with the supply people so I pulled the pole fuse ,
> > we used nothing for a 1/4 and still got a bill
> > idiots I say idiots
> Would have been your supply charge, which you cannot get away with
Hehehe, yes you can George. I haven't been charged the supply charge
since I turned 60 and got me a WA Seniors Card. The same card also got
me a 25% discount on my Shire rates, but my Pensioner Card now gets me
50% discount on the rates.
From: theo on 8 Aug 2010 02:44
On Aug 8, 12:25 pm, "Nev.." <id...(a)mindless.com> wrote:
> On 8/08/2010 1:05 PM, theo wrote:
> > In WA, my Smart meter records power usage depending on the time of
> > day. Power that I generate from my panels and use doesn't ever get to
> > the meter and so is not measured. Power that I generate in excess of
> > my usage is recoreded as exported by the meter in the appropriate time
> > of day section. This is on my bill as a credit with the credit being
> > the rate of the time of day cost less the GST. E.g. the last bill
> > credited me with 11 units at peak rates at 29.06 cents per unit,
> > $3.20. My peak usage was 155 units at 32 cents per unit. This is
> > changing from August 1 to 47 cents for each unit exported no matter
> > what time of day. My peak usage was 10% of my total usage, partly
> > because I mange it and partly because most of my generation is done
> > during peak times.
> Why aren't you on the premium tarrif scheme? Starting last week you
> should be getting 40c/kWhr. You should check with your electricity
> retailer to ensure that you're registered on that scheme. That may be
> in addition to whatever your retailer is paying.
Yup, starting from last week I am getting 40 cents per unit plus what
the retailer is paying. Up to last week the retailer was paying me the
same rate they were charging me less the GST but, by some amazing
coincidence, on the very same day that the 40 cents kicked in, they
decided that henceforth they would only pay me what the power actually
cost them. They say this is 7 cents a unit. So I will be getting 47
cents for exported units. Fuckers!