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From: Diogenes on 26 Jul 2010 00:36 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:24:14 +1000, CrazyCam <CrazyCam(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >Diogenes wrote: >> And if we can't believe our politicians, why do we vote for them, and >> what use is democracy? >Good question Gerry. I used to add to that "This is only happening because not enough of them are getting shot." But since the new, shinier, "anti-terrorism" laws, I thought I'd better stop being funny. Those ASIO arseholes have no sense of humour. ================= Onya bike Gerry
From: hippo on 26 Jul 2010 02:24 Zebee Johnstone wrote: > > In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:08:41 +1000 > Nev.. <idiot(a)mindless.com> wrote: > > Just as a matter of interest, from an interstater who really doesn't > > care how much you pay for, since the government privatised the CTP and > > lets other companies set the rates, why is the government behind held > > responsible for increases in the rates? If the insurance companies are > > colluding to increase prices accross the goard, shouldn't you be > > petitioning the ACCC to enforce competition and investigate > > non-competitive pricing? > > > > because it isn't competitive.... the government still has a hand in > it. > > I don't know the exact details, but my understanding is that the MAA > sets criteria and possibly some variety of pricing. > > "CTP insurers also have discretion to offer discounts and impose > loadings on premiums within the range allowed by the MAA Premium > Determination Guidelines (available in the MAA Guidelines section of > this website)." > > I think the big increases are not the insurance as much as they are > the levy that is supposed to pay for people who are totally > incapacitated - and it seems to cover people who are not covered by > 3rd party insurance. " This scheme provides medical care, treatment, > rehabilitation, attendant care and support to anyone catastrophically > injured (such as severe spinal cord and/or a traumatic brain injury) > for the rest of their life." > > However... not just those in crashes! As far as I know it is all such > people. > > When it was introduced parliament was told the average would be $20 > per vehicle. As they are setting it at a minimum of 30% of the CTP > premium it isn't clear how that could ever be true, no matter the > average used mode median or mean. > > Zebee > > > Yeah. The letter that introduced it said that there would be a 'small' increase. For regional owners at least, it's been more 'significant' than 'small'. CTP in NSW has been an expensive undertaking ever since the panic about raising premiums to cover unfunded liabilities under the (IIRC) Unsworth Govt. It's just got increasingly expensive ever since, especially when operators get slugged agian for what is basically another raft of potential unfunded liabilities. Let's hope they don't discover any more any time soon! ;( -- Posted at www.usenet.com.au
From: theo on 26 Jul 2010 04:23 On Jul 26, 12:36 pm, Diogenes <cy...(a)society.sux.ok> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:24:14 +1000, CrazyCam > > <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >Diogenes wrote: > >> And if we can't believe our politicians, why do we vote for them, and > >> what use is democracy? > >Good question Gerry. > > I used to add to that "This is only happening because not enough of > them are getting shot." But since the new, shinier, "anti-terrorism" > laws, I thought I'd better stop being funny. Those ASIO arseholes > have no sense of humour. I forget the formula we're supposed to use. Is it one politician every third day and one priest every second day, or the other way around? Theo
From: CrazyCam on 26 Jul 2010 17:20 Diogenes wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:24:14 +1000, CrazyCam > <CrazyCam(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > >> Diogenes wrote: > >>> And if we can't believe our politicians, why do we vote for them, and >>> what use is democracy? > >> Good question Gerry. > > I used to add to that "This is only happening because not enough of > them are getting shot." But since the new, shinier, "anti-terrorism" > laws, I thought I'd better stop being funny. Those ASIO arseholes > have no sense of humour. Strange you should say that Gerry. Once, back in the mists of antiquity, or rather the days of 2JJ, in Sydney, I phoned in to a discussion about electoral reform. I explained that the problem was that folk could stand for election too easily, and that changing the rules so the winner in an election is elected, but the losers all get taken out and shot would improve the quality and commitment of those standing for election. It actually went live to air, and even the 2JJ person sounded rather shocked. :-) regards, CrazyCam
From: CrazyCam on 26 Jul 2010 17:23
theo wrote: > On Jul 26, 12:36 pm, Diogenes <cy...(a)society.sux.ok> wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:24:14 +1000, CrazyCam >> >> <Crazy...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>> Diogenes wrote: >>>> And if we can't believe our politicians, why do we vote for them, and >>>> what use is democracy? >>> Good question Gerry. >> I used to add to that "This is only happening because not enough of >> them are getting shot." But since the new, shinier, "anti-terrorism" >> laws, I thought I'd better stop being funny. Those ASIO arseholes >> have no sense of humour. > > I forget the formula we're supposed to use. Is it one politician every > third day and one priest every second day, or the other way around? > > Theo Either way works for me. regards, CrazyCam |