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From: Nev.. on 29 Jul 2010 08:51 On 29/07/2010 7:55 AM, CrazyCam wrote: > Nev.. wrote: > > <snip> > >> Heh. I paid my last electricity bill this week. Sometime in the next >> few weeks I get a bi-directional meter installed. > > It appears that the old-fashioned, spinning disc type meter is actually > bi-directional. > > When nothing much electrical is running in the house, and the new solar > panels can see the sun, the disc turns slowly backwards. :-) > > We are just waiting on the new, meter to measure input to grid. Ahhh yes I can measure my input to the grid with the spinning disk.. got it going two spins back for every one spin forward. I just need the new meter so they can calculate my PFiTs. By my calculations my electricity bills will be reduced by 250%. Nev.. '08 DL1000K8
From: Marts on 29 Jul 2010 16:58 Nev.. wrote... > > Don't they have a government authority in NSW that oversees such charges? We > > have an Essential Services Commission here in Victoria that regulates energy > > prices. > > > > Oh wait, that's not a good example... > > Heh. I paid my last electricity bill this week. Sometime in the next > few weeks I get a bi-directional meter installed. Lucky you. Anyway, what happened to the "moratorium" on smart meters (presuming that this bi-directional meter is a smart meter) until after Labor hopes that it will be back in power? (no pun intended). How much is this meter going to cost you?
From: Moike on 29 Jul 2010 17:34 Marts wrote: > CrazyCam wrote... > >> When nothing much electrical is running in the house, and the new solar >> panels can see the sun, the disc turns slowly backwards. :-) >> >> We are just waiting on the new, meter to measure input to grid. > > And if we (Victoria) don't get the gross tariff thingy that NSW has, then the > standard meter (it's called an induction disc relay) will suffice. > > All the meter reader has to do is read the meter. Whatever your solar "system" > generates will reduce total usage. Of course, if it runs backwards, then your > last meter reading will be subtracted from the new one, thus probably giving you > a negative figure if it runs backwards longer than it runs forwards. > > This means that you will get a credit for the kw that you export based on your > current GD tariff. > > But then, when the smartmeters are introduced, god knows, you may have a > recycled 200MW generator salvaged from Hazelwood tacked onto it, and you'd still > have to pay... > Not quite so. The smart meter keeps separate tallies for electrickery sucked out of the grid and that pumped back in. The latter is credited at about three timed the rate of the former. So during the day, when most stuff in our house is turned off, we are totting up credits at a little over 60c/kwh. Later on, when the flow goes the other way, we pay a tad over 20c (at peak rates). Anything we generate and use directly is just 'free'. Moike
From: Moike on 29 Jul 2010 17:38 Marts wrote: > Nev.. wrote... > >>> Don't they have a government authority in NSW that oversees such charges? We >>> have an Essential Services Commission here in Victoria that regulates energy >>> prices. >>> >>> Oh wait, that's not a good example... >> Heh. I paid my last electricity bill this week. Sometime in the next >> few weeks I get a bi-directional meter installed. > > Lucky you. > > Anyway, what happened to the "moratorium" on smart meters (presuming that this > bi-directional meter is a smart meter) until after Labor hopes that it will be > back in power? (no pun intended). > > How much is this meter going to cost you? > I think the 'moratorium' was on the general roll out to all customers. It was getting too far behind because of the demand from people installing solar panels. We had to wait three months for ours, but we were part of the last flurry of people who snuck into the full rebate. It should be better by now. Moike
From: CrazyCam on 29 Jul 2010 18:28
Marts wrote: > CrazyCam wrote... > >> When nothing much electrical is running in the house, and the new solar >> panels can see the sun, the disc turns slowly backwards. :-) >> >> We are just waiting on the new, meter to measure input to grid. > > And if we (Victoria) don't get the gross tariff thingy that NSW has, then the > standard meter (it's called an induction disc relay) will suffice. Since we are in NSW, as I understand it, we get a separate, grid-input meter, so as we can get the higher price for "our" electricity. Now, how long this state of affairs may last <shrug> ... Who knows? The new meter still hasn't arrived, but I guess a day or two of pissing it down rain might slow down fiddling with electricity boxes out in the open. regards, CrazyCam |