From: Mark N on
Champ wrote:
> Mark N wrote:
>>>> Moto2 is really the only positive development
>>>> But the fact that there is no American presence
>>> Confirmed
>>> Promoracing Kenny Noyes Harris
>> I don't call that an American presence, it's just one rider who is
>> American by nationality (even though he was actually born in Spain), a
>> technicality. Noyes isn't someone who came up through racing in America;
>> although his parents intentionally started him racing on dirt in
>> America, I think all his roadracing has been done in Spain, which makes
>> him more of the same (although he has a four stroke background more than
>> two stroke). And he has no particular fan allegiance in this country.
>
> There's a long history of Australian riders coming to Britain, from
> Gardner to Stoner, because that's where the action is, and that's
> where you get noticed. No one suggests they are any less Australian.
>
> So why is an American rider building his careeer in Spain any
> different?

Noyes isn't someone who raced in the US and then decided in order to
make it at a top level (or just to make a living at racing, which I
think is more the case with the Aussies) he had to go to Europe. Noyes
was born in Spain and effectively grew up there, because his father was
a working journalist reporting on GP, and likely he only raced dirttrack
in the US as a kid because he and his father felt that would be a way to
develop skills that would pay off for him later on. Otherwise, he's
basically just another Spanish racer. And the context of my original
comment was about expanding the nature of the class beyond the usual 125
graduates and Spanish/Italian teams, and Noyes doesn't really do that.
He can ride in the class in ways he couldn't ride in 250 because (I
assume) he's physically bigger than the usual 125/250 rider profile and
he's experienced at racing big four strokes, but that's kind of like a
young Ruben Xaus coming into Moto2 and not a real outsider.
From: Mark N on
Julian Bond wrote:
> Mark N
>> Noyes isn't someone who raced in the US and then decided in order to
>> make it at a top level
>
> Nothing to do with his passport then.

Do you have a point to make, Julian?