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From: doetnietcomputeren on 21 Dec 2009 13:44 On 2009-12-21 19:33:40 +0100, "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> said: >>> And I suspect the HOW of the sentence also has a lot to do with the >>> deterrent effect. >> >> The prospect of ending up in Fulsom, would be enough to keep me from >> getting caught doing anything that would warrant me going there. >> >> For those that are prepared to go there, or to death row, I doubt that >> stoning, hanging drawing and quartering or being fed bleeding feet >> first to pirhanas is going to make much difference. Certainly being >> faced by an angry mob of a dozen of you wouldn't worry them in the >> slightest. > > I see what you are saying. It doesn't change the fact that it will deter > some and prevents re-offending. > > If it has no beneficial effect then why do the 'Merkin public support it? Many of the Merkins don't support it. It's only available in something like 37 states and has been abolished in some and ruled unconstitutional in several others. -- Dnc
From: DR on 21 Dec 2009 13:46 'Hog posted: >DR wrote: >> 'Hog posted: >>> Champ wrote: >> >>>> you appear to be genuinely proposing capital punishment for 3 crimes >>>> against property. >>>> >>>> You're either a troll or deeply unpleasant. >>> >>> I'm suggesting liquidating those who systematically disrupt and try >>> to destroy the lives of those around them. Over and over. Resisting >>> all efforts to educate them. >> >> Rather than actively killing people, which is of course not nice, how >> about permanent exile somewhere fairly inaccessible and inhospitable? >> I suggest Rockall... > >I think the Shetland Islands are more suitable. And a harsher punishment. Unfair on the residents, who are mostly undeserving. -- Darren GSF1200N K3
From: doetnietcomputeren on 21 Dec 2009 13:46 On 2009-12-21 19:28:07 +0100, steve auvache <dont_spam(a)thecow.me.uk> said: >>>> It's not a deterrent. >>> >>> The entire history of mankind demonstrates that punishment, be it >>> capital, corporal or any other kind, appears not to be a deterrent for >>> some. The solution, if ever there is to be one, seems to lie in >>> preventing "crime" in the first place. >> >> <Auvache in rare lucid moment shocker> > > Typewriters, monkeys, etc. Is that some sort of apology I see? -- Dnc
From: DR on 21 Dec 2009 13:53 boots posted: >On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:46:36 +0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, DR says: > >>'Hog posted: >>>DR wrote: >>>> 'Hog posted: >>>>> Champ wrote: >>>> >>>>>> you appear to be genuinely proposing capital punishment for 3 crimes >>>>>> against property. >>>>>> >>>>>> You're either a troll or deeply unpleasant. >>>>> >>>>> I'm suggesting liquidating those who systematically disrupt and try >>>>> to destroy the lives of those around them. Over and over. Resisting >>>>> all efforts to educate them. >>>> >>>> Rather than actively killing people, which is of course not nice, how >>>> about permanent exile somewhere fairly inaccessible and inhospitable? >>>> I suggest Rockall... >>> >>>I think the Shetland Islands are more suitable. And a harsher punishment. >> >>Unfair on the residents, who are mostly undeserving. > >Cumbria then. Not isolated. -- Darren GSF1200N K3
From: Andy Bonwick on 21 Dec 2009 14:06
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:11:26 -0000, "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >Champ wrote: snip> >> you appear to be genuinely proposing capital punishment for 3 crimes >> against property. >> >> You're either a troll or deeply unpleasant. > >I'm suggesting liquidating those who systematically disrupt and try to >destroy the lives of those around them. Over and over. Resisting all efforts >to educate them. > While I'd suggest a good kicking would be in order I think the 'final solution' is a step too far. >More likely you who is rather out of touch with the feelings of a rather >large section of the population. > >Naturally one has to agree with Capital Punishment and Retribution. Polls >suggest 87 to over 90% of people do in specific circumstances. > I think you're being a bit selective here because though some people might well agree with topping murderers or child molesters I think you'd struggle to find more than one in a million who'd do the same to a burglar. |