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From: Champ on 23 Dec 2009 10:08 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:56:25 +0100, Ace <b.rogers(a)ifrance.com> wrote: >>>It's not the coldest part of the world >> >>"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Fancisco" >It's one of those self-perpetuating myths. Sure, in parts of the Bay >area it's cooler than the surrounding countryside, due to frequent sea >mists, but 'cold' it ain't. Four weeks ago they were all claiming that >it was unseasonably warm and sunny - the day we went out to Alcatraz >was clear and around 19C, IIRC ; last week they were complaining about >the bitter winter rains, as it had dropped to around 10C. > >They just don't know proper weather. Oh sure. I was in SF in January a few years ago, and walking around in a t shirt. Having just come down from the mountains (Tahoe) it felt bizarre. -- Champ We declare that the splendour of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: Mark Olson on 23 Dec 2009 10:13 'Hog wrote: > steve auvache wrote: >> In article <mp6dnQP3wMEgua_WnZ2dnUVZ_hVi4p2d(a)posted.visi>, Mark Olson >> <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid> writes >>> 'Hog wrote: >>> >>>> I don't find it unpleasant of course because I celebrate tolerance >>>> and diversity. >>> http://www.thoseshirts.com/images/diversitybk750.jpg >> lol > > Ha, no Glock, no prize ? Glock 17, first row. My brother showed up at a party at my house wearing that shirt.
From: Ace on 23 Dec 2009 11:22 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:05:29 +0000, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: >On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:37:33 -0000, "'Hog" ><sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >>It all stemmed from me just asking you whether becoming the victim chnaged >>how you felt about such things. > >It hasn't. HTH. My being a 'victim' of circumstances, foolishness and poor representation certainly changed how I felt. Until you've experienced it, it's impossible to imagine how one's priorities and expectations of life change when banged up. The provision of basic human rights, and their occasional withdrawal, is ... actually, I can't begin to describe it, so I won't.
From: 'Hog on 22 Dec 2009 18:45 Ace <b.rogers(a)ifrance.com> wrote: > Good point. But Rope and Hog would probably think it OK, as long as > they're only able to take it out on each other. Shouldn't be any social interaction for lifers perhaps, as rehabilitation isn't an issue, assuming we can't execute them. Solitary. Rabbit runs for exercise. Chain gang for work. Someone who toured Alcatraz told me recently that the (individual) cells were essentially open to the elements. That would explain the Birdman. Our prison system is so *utterly* fucked. It doesn't really punish evil scum who deserve to suffer and does absolutely nothing to train and rehabilitate those who might manage to reform. It couldn't be worse if you tried to design it so. -- 'Hog
From: Champ on 22 Dec 2009 18:48
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:45:33 -0000, "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >Our prison system is so *utterly* fucked. It doesn't really punish evil >scum who deserve to suffer and does absolutely nothing to train and >rehabilitate those who might manage to reform. It couldn't be worse if you >tried to design it so. Have you considered psychiatric help? Cos if you don't you're headed for the kill file. -- Champ We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk |